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Okey dokey then ! With the mancave on hold until the snow melts and the lorry with my timber can get up the hill, I have sat down at the bench and tried to figure out the state of play with this build. As I have previously mentioned, I started this back when I got back in the hobby, and it looks like I wasn't entirely sure what I was doing The parts D-10 and D-4 are the forward glove vanes, and it looks like they can be made to move 20150114_104715 But the younger me, glued them in and sanded them smooth, I have no idea why, there is also a little gap to take care of too 20150114_104730 Also in the box was a part butchered BigEd set, included is a fair amount of etch for the exterior, but for some reason I haven't used any of it. I will try and use as much as I can from herein, but the vents can't go on as the fuselage is already glued together, and I need to get inside 20150114_125308


"At speeds above Mach 1.0, glove vanes in the leading edge of the fixed portion of the wing extend to move the aerodynamic center forward and reduce loads on the tailplane."
You just won't be able to go supersonic any more. lol

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It looks ok in the 2 dimensional world of a computer screen Pete.
Have you got a good reference? I only have a walk around of a wreck in my reference library so far. Still gathering that material up.
The etch is very fine isn't it?


I'm hoping that it will thicken up a bit with a goodly amount of primer on it.
It's as thin as hair ! A real nightmare to glue as well, I struggled to begin with, but found that putting a tiny puddle of accelerator on the fixing point and a dot of cyno on the etch worked well

There are a load of walk around photos in the F-14 book I've got and that's helping a little bit, trouble is it's making me want to add more detail too, and I want this to be a reasonably quick project lol

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Okey dokey then ! With the mancave on hold until the snow melts and the lorry with my timber can get up the hill, I have sat down at the bench and tried to figure out the state of play with this build. As I have previously mentioned, I started this back when I got back in the hobby, and it looks like I wasn't entirely sure what I was doing The parts D-10 and D-4 are the forward glove vanes, and it looks like they can be made to move 20150114_104715 But the younger me, glued them in and sanded them smooth, I have no idea why, there is also a little gap to take care of too 20150114_104730 Also in the box was a part butchered BigEd set, included is a fair amount of etch for the exterior, but for some reason I haven't used any of it. I will try and use as much as I can from herein, but the vents can't go on as the fuselage is already glued together, and I need to get inside 20150114_125308


"At speeds above Mach 1.0, glove vanes in the leading edge of the fixed portion of the wing extend to move the aerodynamic center forward and reduce loads on the tailplane."
You just won't be able to go supersonic any more. lol


This bird is in desperate need of an overhaul, as some muppet has fixed the intake ramps in the supersonic position too lol !

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Lol you're not the only one that's done it by the looks. Check post #37 [rofl]
http://genessis-models.websitetoolbox.com/post/hasegawa-f14a-tomcat-148-scale-admin-build-not-entered-6204477?&trail=45

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Here's a very good reference for the intakes by the way. I've never done anything like this before so it'll be interesting how it turns out on mine. lol
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal8/7301-7400/gal7310-F-14-Chan/00.shtm

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Lol you're not the only one that's done it by the looks. Check post #37 [rofl]
http://genessis-models.websitetoolbox.com/post/hasegawa-f14a-tomcat-148-scale-admin-build-not-entered-6204477?&trail=45

I wonder if the ramps are in this position when the plane launches ? I vaguely remeber reading that the early f-14s used full afterburner at launch, the later ones with the more powerful engines didn't need the fires lit to get of the ramp

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I say don't worry about it, they're done, only a rivet counter is going to pick up on it. Move on. lol

They don't do aftermarket intakes for this kit, which is a little surprising considering the kit ones are so lacking.

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Here's a very good reference for the intakes by the way. I've never done anything like this before so it'll be interesting how it turns out on mine. lol
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal8/7301-7400/gal7310-F-14-Chan/00.shtm

I think that's the best way to do it, I've got some really thin styrene sheet, I will have a go when I get to that bit.
The intakes are assembled but not glued to the fuselage yet, the more I look at them the more I am beginning to realise how much it will bug me if I don't at least try to sort out the tunnels.

I don't think there is an aftermarket solution (other than covers) for these either


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Here's a very good reference for the intakes by the way. I've never done anything like this before so it'll be interesting how it turns out on mine. lol
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal8/7301-7400/gal7310-F-14-Chan/00.shtm
I think that's the best way to do it, I've got some really thin styrene sheet, I will have a go when I get to that bit. The intakes are assembled but not glued to the fuselage yet, the more I look at them the more I am beginning to realise how much it will bug me if I don't at least try to sort out the tunnels. I don't think there is an aftermarket solution (other than covers) for these either Pete

Yeah check out his drawing of the turbine fan in the modified position (image 14), he moves it forward a bit for clearance. [smile]
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I say don't worry about it, they're done, only a rivet counter is going to pick up on it. Move on. lol

They don't do aftermarket intakes for this kit, which is a little surprising considering the kit ones are so lacking.


Lol, I'm not worried, I was just wondering if that might be the reason that fully closed was the only option in Bobby"s kit, I have left my rivet counting days well behind me, it was worrying about every little detail that nearly finished the hobby for me a couple of years ago.

Nowadays if it looks like a duck lol

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[rofl][rofl][rofl] [thumb]
Good, you had me worried there for a sec. [wink]

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Here's a very good reference for the intakes by the way. I've never done anything like this before so it'll be interesting how it turns out on mine. lol
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal8/7301-7400/gal7310-F-14-Chan/00.shtm
I think that's the best way to do it, I've got some really thin styrene sheet, I will have a go when I get to that bit. The intakes are assembled but not glued to the fuselage yet, the more I look at them the more I am beginning to realise how much it will bug me if I don't at least try to sort out the tunnels. I don't think there is an aftermarket solution (other than covers) for these either Pete


Yeah check out his drawing of the turbine fan in the modified position (image 14), he moves it forward a bit for clearance. [smile]

The fix looks easy, and that is leading me to believe it will be a right pain in the cory lol !

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Here's a very good reference for the intakes by the way. I've never done anything like this before so it'll be interesting how it turns out on mine. lol
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal8/7301-7400/gal7310-F-14-Chan/00.shtm
I think that's the best way to do it, I've got some really thin styrene sheet, I will have a go when I get to that bit. The intakes are assembled but not glued to the fuselage yet, the more I look at them the more I am beginning to realise how much it will bug me if I don't at least try to sort out the tunnels. I don't think there is an aftermarket solution (other than covers) for these either Pete


Yeah check out his drawing of the turbine fan in the modified position (image 14), he moves it forward a bit for clearance. [smile]
The fix looks easy, and that is leading me to believe it will be a right pain in the cory lol ! Pete

Time is definitely going to tell. lol
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[rofl][rofl][rofl] [thumb]
Good, you had me worried there for a sec. [wink]


Nah I'm not bothered about the ramps, what's really keeping me awake is getting the right shade for the pilots socks lol !

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I got the photo etch on the other main gear leg, it went much easier than the first one (practice makes perfect I guess. Lol) then gave them both a heavy coat of white primer.
This has helped make the etch a bit less "2D" looking
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I was pleased to see the seams where the 2 halves went together are pretty much gone
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Next I will give them a quick coat of satin white, and then I can weather them up a little bit
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