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M.Brindos

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I started on these lovely figures today. Once I'm done I will put them up for sale on eBay.






I've added some draw-strings to the TC (he's the furthest along) to see how that will work out and I like it. Just one of those details that should be there.

The question is, should I go with the White side out, or the Camouflage? I have already noticed they are NOT wearing the snow pants (even though they are shown on the box art), but rather the standard pants that the other crew sets have come with, so those will probably be painted Black.

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Really nice detail in these figures. Mini art do seem to have an eye for detail. Apart from the wrong trousers Lol.
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I really, really like the detail level these have Simon. They are made in softer plastic that is easy to carve and scribe more detail into. You can't completely trust the box art, but I don't mind so much. It's more of a minor annoyance than anything else. They are cheap at an average of $15 a box for five or six figures. My Dad added a couple of surprises in this last order from Alpine Miniatures. For that same $15 you only get one figure with two head options, but there is not a huge difference in detail level. The Alpine figure is molded much finer however with no seams and no flash with little cleanup. If I could choose between the two I would go with the Alpine just because of the easy-as-heck cleanup.

For comparison, the MiniArt are just as detailed, but have lots of seams and prep to do which has taken me about 4 hours to get into primer. The Alpine figure took me 15 minutes.





If you need a whole crew then you can hardly beat MiniArt, but if you only need one figure then these Alpine figures are stunning right out of the little box. Alpine also seems to make their figs from some kind of resin-plastic? Liquid cement did nothing to it, but Super Glue stuck the parts together like they were never separate pieces and they fit together perfectly.

I am highly impressed by both figures in the end. Although the MiniArt figures require far more prep than the Alpine figures do, they make very nice figures when you get past cleanup and assembly.
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The batttery died in the camera before I could snap more than this one lousy shot. I tried to bring out the colors in Ps but it only washed it out, so this is as good as it gets for now. I picked up a new trick called Chromatic something-or-other and it is faster and has better blending results, even over the camouflage. The principle is simple, you do your blocking and then using 80-90% clear flat with black or white for highlights and shadows. You just build it up real slowly from directly above or directly below and the magic happens. I think Fluffy could appreciate how easy it is.



I need to look up more details on this method and share it with you guys. It makes shading black a whole lot easier with more control.
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It does look like the gap between plastic and resin figures is closing, those Miniart figures look great !

I'm really interested to seeing the new Shading technique too Mike, I haven't seen it done like this before.
That figure looks damn good allready mate

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Im working on a tutorial Pete. Fig #2 is almost done..
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That is looking amazing, which is why you won't catch me doing figures, they must be the hardest subject as everyone knows what a human looks like.
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There are still ways to fake it Ken. The big factor is scale. Finding one you favor makes it a bit easier, but all of the tricks that go into building those beautiful bikes you keep making do apply here.

Its all in your head. If you put the time into it then you get better at doing them just like anything else. I can almost see you shaking your head right now, but you could produce some good looking figs too. You have a gifted eye for how bikes look in the real world and you look at people every day like you said. What couldn't you just apply what you know?

I'm not saying you need to produce museum quality from the start. Just well painted figures. Concentrate on just blocking first. Once you've got that part done a few times and you're happy with your progress, that's when you try something new such as shading clothing, then move to painting skin tones with highlights and shadows. You dont even need to worry about painting eyes in 1/35 or smaller till you're good and ready to give it an honest try.

You're seeing some pretty advanced techniques that I'm doing on these figures. You are not expected to pull it all off with your first figs. That would be unfair to you and your skill level. Remember that I started off hating and dreading figures myself.

Painting eyes was out of the question not too long ago. But I started where you are and I know you could do this stuff if you wanted to. You've definitely shown you have the talent. [smile]

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I almost forgot lol! I did the coat on the nearest figure with solid colors vs the wash-like layers I did on the farthest figure. I don't like it as much and it makes his coat look newer but dirtier after the other effects were added. I also used a darker wash on the second figure and it shows more than the brown-er wash I used on the TC. So that extra effort to keep the colors more solid backfired on me for what I'm trying to accomplish. He does look a bit like he's almost rain soaked. I'm going to have to add that to future experimentations and see if I can make that effect again later when I want it lol. Thanks for poppin in gents. [smile]


Edit: I forgot to mention that the pants on both figures have (and the hat on the closest figure) been done using the chromatic something-er-other technique I just heard about. It's an old trick from what I've been told, but I've been in art school and was not informed of this idea before, so hopefully this could be a resurgence of this simple, yet effective technique.

I've forgotten to upload the pictures to my laptop so I guess I will have to leave those for later and take this opportunity to at least describe it to you guys. Most of you will understand it I hope lol.
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Here's the status on the other three. You can see I'm still working on carving out the coats so they look separate from their pants.

The guy on the far left needed to have his left pant leg not look squished because it is our of register with his waist. I even decided to correct the angle on his left foot. It made more sense to have it dangle a little more due to the position of his leg as he's lifting himself out of the co-drivers hatch of a Panzer IV.

Behind the center figure (driver) you can see the plasi-resin head I will be using because it has the headphones on it. The third figure is sitting on the left side of the tank somewhere.



Thanks for your interest! [biggrin]
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I've got the driver's head on now. I had to use some tape to make a shirt collar and then blend it in with liquified Bondo.



Getting there. [smile]
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Nice work Mike, I'm loving the camo on the jackets, the effect really looks like fabric it looks challenging to paint though.

I am still really keen to see how to do this new technique, the shading looks great !

It looks like one of those poor guys has taken a round to the ass lol ! The bondo looks just like a gunshot wound in the pic

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I'm working on it! Really! lol.

I've got about 50 pictures to go through still and I haven't had time to catch up this week. Spring cleaning, washer repair and laundry catch-up, I've got a couple of days put into them and they're looking great.

But this new method has me doing things out of my usual rotation. Normally I start with the face and hands and then move on to the clothes. This new method has me doing the clothing first because the face and hands are shaded differently and I have no ability to mask them to paint the clothing afterwards. So I have four of the five figures at the point where the faces need to be painted now.

I wish I could upload a picture, but I'm over at my Dad's right now and I didn't bring anything with me.
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Here's one of the last pictures I took. I have the blocking done on their heads and that's where I've left off for now. I've been putting the M-103 back into one piece and finishing the mantlet cover as it extends over the gun tube. I started getting some spot filtering done to see how it's going to look and I at first did not like it at all, but it's starting to look kinda neat. I forgot to gloss it before the filtering and it's much harder to get the oils to blend over an non smooth finish.

But the boys are looking real good. [smile]

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Looking seriously good Mike, those Alpine figures look beautiful moldings. Great work on that camo.

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