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mikeboiter

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Good to see you get started on this Mike, A quick one about the decals over the raised side panels, sometimes even if the decal does conform to the lumps and bumps the printed instuments don't match the moulded ones and it can look a bit odd, so I would go with the guys suggestions and either leave it and paint or sand and decal. I feel your intake woes too mate, they always seem to be a pain in jet kits (I think all of us in the Phantom group build had nightmares with them regardless of manufacturer) For lead wire I'm not 100% sure of what size for 1/48 as I build in 1/32 but I reckon 0.2 or 0.3 wouldn't be far wrong, hopefully some of the memebers who work in this scale can confirm ? Pete


Thanks for the reply, not being sure of the size has kept me from getting any lead wire in the past. I think I will go with the 0.2. Yeah this is one of the worst intakes I have seen on a kit that I have worked on. Usually its just one or two, this is going to be 5 seams to deal with. Aint nobody got time for that.


yeah, 0.2 looks ok to me.  I've actually just ordered a roll of 0.25 solder wire to use instead of the lead wire you can get for modelling.  if it works like I hope it will its a way cheaper alternative.  will let you know.


Please do! I am all about re purposing common items for modeling whenever possible. 
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solder is much cheaper than the modelling lead wire too (I got a couple of meters recently on EBay for a pound delivered

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Mike,

This is a link to a walkaround of a Crusader. The wheelwells are full of wire and hydraulic lines. I used 0.25 mm and a 0.5 for a thicker Fuel line.
http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/howard_mason/f-8j_150297_painted_as_f-8e/index.php?Page=1

Let me know if this was helpful. Good luck with the wiring.

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I looked at solder wire online and a 1000ft of it would cost me $9US + postage. All of it that I see has a styrene coating on the outside. looks like this would be a big advantage to gluing it in place?? you can get it in a large selection of colors also. I gotta get some!
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Mike,

This is a link to a walkaround of a Crusader. The wheelwells are full of wire and hydraulic lines. I used 0.25 mm and a 0.5 for a thicker Fuel line.
http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/howard_mason/f-8j_150297_painted_as_f-8e/index.php?Page=1

Let me know if this was helpful. Good luck with the wiring.


Awesome! Thanks for the link. That helps immensely. I had been having trouble finding good reference. I was finding mostly pictures of peoples models online when I did my google searches. And the pictures I was able to find didnt really show what I wanted to see.
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I looked at solder wire online and a 1000ft of it would cost me $9US + postage. All of it that I see has a styrene coating on the outside. looks like this would be a big advantage to gluing it in place?? you can get it in a large selection of colors also. I gotta get some!


I have been checking on ebay and I have found it really cheap. I think payday I am going to have to grab me a roll. I may also see if there are any welder supply houses locally that carry anything that fine. I would rather just walk in a store and walk out with some.This is making me have to pause a little right now on this build. That's OK though cause I need to start working on my f-18 anyway. 
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Soldering wire is great for landing gears and any kind of wire and hose. Just if you make too tight turns it is not possible to get it straight again. I have never heard styrene coating, it would have been tremendous help. Where I could find one?

[022_Academy_F-8E_Crusader_1_72_zpsb9d40db7] 
Here was my F-8 engine duct and start for main landing gear.. done mainly with soldering wire.
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that wire/hose work is AWESOME!. Here is the link I found to the wire with a styrene coating:

http://www.amazon.com/Solder-0-25mm-Plated-Copper-Wire-wrapping/dp/B008AGUAS8

OOPS?? its tin coated copper with a PVC coating. I was sure it said styrene?


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Soldering wire is great for landing gears and any kind of wire and hose. Just if you make too tight turns it is not possible to get it straight again. I have never heard styrene coating, it would have been tremendous help. Where I could find one?

[022_Academy_F-8E_Crusader_1_72_zpsb9d40db7] 
Here was my F-8 engine duct and start for main landing gear.. done mainly with soldering wire.


Those look amazing! I am sure they will look even better painted and weathered. Definitely going to have to step my game up lol. I actually raided the scrap wire harness bin in our lab here. I found some copper that is .5mm and some silver strands that are .2mm so I am going to roll with those. Got an unlimited supply and the price is right where I like it........free[cool]
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Wow very nice wiring job.
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You are too kind! The engine duct really cant be seen anymore although the wing is in upper position, but  wheel wells can still be checked. I don't have proper picture from painted wheel wells, but here is some comparison for engine duct if you are interested:

[054_Academy_F-8E_Crusader_1_72-800_zps4c5482aa]

I didn't understand that soldering wire at Amazon  it said: 
  • Material : Plastic, PVC, Tin Plated Copper;Wire External Color : Red

is the package PVC and that is copper wire with tin on top?

I jused regular soldering wire as http://www.ebay.com/itm/Firm-0-3-MM-63-37Rosin-Roll-Core-Solder-Wire-Tin-Lead-Flux-Welding-Iron-Reel-/191426673105?hash=item2c91eb39d1

pity that styrene sounded too good to be true and it was [bawl]
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well I can confirm that the 0.25 and 0.5 rolls of solder wire were well worth getting.  I got 100g rolls and there is enough to keep me going for a long time. At £12 and £17 I really can't grumble at the value for money when compared to what lead wire from a model shop would have cost.  The tin in the wire also makes the wire a little easier to work with as it doesn't snap as easily.

There'll be some pics on my thread soon of what I've done with it so far.

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I have 0,25mm and 0,56mm soldering wire too and one thicker (which is now in my summer cottage for proper use) and 100 grams really is enough for lifetime for modelling.. and as can be seen it is good for modelling!
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You are too kind! The engine duct really cant be seen anymore although the wing is in upper position, but  wheel wells can still be checked. I don't have proper picture from painted wheel wells, but here is some comparison for engine duct if you are interested:

[054_Academy_F-8E_Crusader_1_72-800_zps4c5482aa]

I didn't understand that soldering wire at Amazon  it said: 
  • Material : Plastic, PVC, Tin Plated Copper;Wire External Color : Red

is the package PVC and that is copper wire with tin on top?

I jused regular soldering wire as http://www.ebay.com/itm/Firm-0-3-MM-63-37Rosin-Roll-Core-Solder-Wire-Tin-Lead-Flux-Welding-Iron-Reel-/191426673105?hash=item2c91eb39d1

pity that styrene sounded too good to be true and it was [bawl]


I tried to find out more about that type of solder [there are pages of different alloys used for specific purposes but did not find anything definite. Looks like a no-go for me as well. I am glad you put up the link to the regular solder. thanks!

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Hey guys, it has been a super busy week for me as always. I have made a little progress though. I am still on pace to finish both my kits by the deadline (hopefully lol).


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The first thing I did was drill out the dials on my instrument panel. I have to admit I was really nervous when I started, but I am pretty happy with the results. Now off to prime, paint and dry brush.

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Next I thinned the part up by a little over half. I am not sure if I should have gone thinner, but I was scared of snapping the part. And since this is my first attempt at doing something like this I decided to see how this turns out and if need be I will go thinner next time.

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Got my wire that I scavenged from here at work ready. It was a bit of a pain, but it is very soft and very malleable so all in all I am very happy with it


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Got half of the gear well done last night while I was watching the game. I am very pleased so far. This is by far the most plumbing I have ever done on a kit. But I think from now on I will be doing a lot more of it.

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