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TedUSA

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I always wanted to see how to make those handles and you have shown us--excellent! thank you very much--nice result!
btw--nice touch making the pictures on top of the currency.

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The next thing is to do is add pilots.  Both pilots are casted as one part, but Lightings cockpit is quite tight, so I'm not going to do anything about that. Old one has quite soft details and some flash, the new one is much better and it is better than Hasegawa separate pilots because molds meet each other quite nicely. 

[Pilots-800] 
This doesn't give the right picture as the old one on the left is much closer to the camera. Some measurements show that the BAC F.3 (old) pilot would be about 154cm and the EE F.2A (new) would be about 182cm in real life. The older one shows a little longer as he really is because he doesn't sit, he just bends his knees..

[Pilots_in_seats-800]
Painted with Lifecolor and Tamiya paints and some wash to do shadows. I'm not good at painting the figures as it is not too interesting to do the figures. But I really like to see those beside/inside the models as it gives some life and shows relative size of the plane. 
 
[Seats_Behind-800]

Ejection seats from behind, once again on the left old and on the right new Lightnings version.  

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Cockpit needs something to the behind of the ejection seat area (as shown on earlier post, it is somewhat empty). The representation of the cockpit behind is something that seems to be quite close to real thing. In my opinion there should be something more, so I added some more detail:

[Cockpit_tube-800]
I drilled some holes to where I put soldering lead (from that roll under the cockpit at the picture). And some styrene. The cockpit is perhaps little too blue, so I'll paint it with other gray (same that is on the cockpit floor on the picture).
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Reply with quote  #34 
Looking good Likeing the scratch built parts to add detail and fill the empty gaps
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There is no option for drybrush or anything like that in cockpit, because the panels are just flat. Only the decals are included, which are quite basic, but ok. Almost nothing can be seen if I close the cockpit and very little if I decide to leave it open as the pilot covers most of the cockpit after all.
[Cockpit_bath_complete-800]
Cockpit was painted with Lifecolor UA-22 dark gray and weathered with MIG Neutral wash and AK Brown Blue wash.

[Cockpit+seat+pilot-800] 
The cockpit tube and pilot with seat from front.

The seated pilot couldn't fit to the cockpit. After some close look and thinking, I noticed the problem:

[Pilots_legs_text-800] 
Pilots legs go too much down and those meet cockpit floor too soon and seat doesn't go fully down. In my opinion I have done everything as I should and that is stated in instructions.
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bummer! that is exactly why I exchanged the pilot in the F-16. the one in the kit would not touch the seat [his rear end was off the seat] when I dryfit him in.I just happened to have the figures kits that included several extra pilots to work with.

1. I thought about putting a block of somethig under the seat to lift everything up but his legs would not go into the openings under the control panel! Also, his head was going to hit the canopy.

2.If his feet or lower legs don't show with the canopy open or closed, could you just cut/sand the bottom of the boots till he fits??

3. another alternative might be to cut a wedge on the top of each knee [or close to them] so you can "lift" the feet/legs up a bit. repair the cut area with a bit of putty or gel CA glue if needed--repaint???

best wishes. thanks for sharing the problem and a picture.

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It's little odd that there is so much difference in legs and cockpit floor as that pilot belongs to that cockpit. I also considered the options TedUSA mentioned: 1) some filling between seat and pilot: out of the question because of the things mentioned. 2) cut the boots: used as I was lazy and you really can't see that. 3) I think to cut knee underside and bend the leg more strait, but as you can't see it would be waist of time 4) I considered to sand cockpit floor so that legs would fit.

[Cockpit_pilot-800]

Here is pilot and his shoes.. with option 2.

[Fuselage_insides-800] 
Everything that goes inside the fuselage ready to be assembled.


[Exhaust_gap-800] 
Dryfit of the exhaust showed some 1mm gap between fuselage and exhaust. It can easily be dealt with some filing from afterburner sections back wall.


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Next all the components that has been built are glued inside of the fuselage:

[weight-800] 
Some nose weight is even mentioned in instructions (although into the radome), but I'll add there if this 10 pcs of these rounds aren't enough. I used some white glue to glue them into place.

[Behind_cockpit-800]
Another thing that won't fit is the  behind of the cockpit. If I haven't done the extra work on that area I'll could just use some heavy clamping, but now I have to be a little more gentle..

[Sawed_cocpit_behind-800] 
After some thinking I decided to file a groove on behind the cockpit to the place where it should bend..
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You are handling each problem with patience and determination. good work!
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I decided that I glue the cockpit after I have glued fuselage together:

[Before_Closing_texts-800] 
Here is fuselage before closing, I accidentally sanded too much from intakes upper part and I added some styrene strip to correct that.

[Closed_fuselage_text-800]

I clued the fuselage in stages, first the top side, so that I could have as good joint as possible. It hopefully saves time in cleaning the joint. After I have took the picture I noticed that there is nice portion of my clamps used, more of them in wings sometimes in future.
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Going well despite problems. good patience = good results. using all those clips shows your resourcefulness and recycling by using items for more than one purpose.
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Underside is glued similar to the top, the bellytanks forward section was made from two parts (there will be F.6 as I expected..).

[Fuselage_bottom-800] 
The fit is quite stiff, but I didn't have to sand it down from anywhere.  The overall fit is really good and no filler is needed in the fuselage just some sanding. To get the halves together evenly the later glued side had some troubles to reach the cable rail. 
 

[Fuselage_gap-800] 
Some really small gap was left there because I wanted everything else to be in plane.The problematic backside of the cockpit was glued lastly, mainly because by this way the fit could be better.

[Cockpit_back-800] 
Clamping was very demanding and I couldn't find suitable clamp for this one. I had to manually push from painted place and the paint was little worn off, but end result was acceptable. Little gap was left between fuselage and cockpit back plate.
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Looking good nice recovery on the rear of the cockpit problem
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The next thing in this EE (new) Lightning was landing gear bays in wings. These wings are done in different way that I haven't seen before: the bay walls are done into lower wing half, not into upper where is all the other detail. This leads to some consideration what to do. Some ducting was required, but in Lightning most of these goes inside of leading edge so there is minimal amount shown in landing gear bays and none is luckily on the ceiling. Most notable ones will be over one hydraulic valve which is put in place lastly, so I have to put those in later state.

[Tool_for_rivets-800] 
Firstly I made some rivets to upper floor with Trumpeter riveter. I'm not too happy with that tool as I really can't see where the wheel goes and the result of this is little wobbling rivets.

[wheelwell_cables-800] 
As there is some cables in landing gear bays I drilled some holes to the suitable places in the walls. You have to see where the landing gear struts go so that the plumping doesn't interfere with those. You have to look also where the landing gear doors will be. Next I put some soldering wire to the place where I thought it would be suitable to start. Some Tamiya liquid cement was used to seal the hole and little drop of super glue to fix those ends.

[wheelwell_cables_ready-800] 
After all the desired connections are made the end of the soldering wire is cut down and glued at the same way as at the start..
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Reply with quote  #45 
landing gear bays always look good with more details. nice job adding in everything.
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