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Thatmas

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My comparison build is ready for final reveal pictures.. it was close and weather didn't favor picture taking, but there was no other options. Build thread is here.

Some comparison between these two Airfix offerings:


Box artAirvix English Electric LightningAirfix BAC Lightning
Model nameEnglish Electric Lightning F.2ABAC Lightning F.3
Scale1/721/72
ManufacturerAirfixAirfix
Date originally released20131960's
Price payed16€4,99€
Decals with kitF.2A Flown by Wing Commander R.K. Barcilon, No. 19 Sqn, RAF Germany, Gutersloh, late 1974 (green); F.2A Flown by Wing Commander J.B. Mitchell, Commanding officer No. 92 Sqn, RAF Germany, Gutersloh, August 1972 (natural metal); StencilsF.3 5 sqdn R.A.F Binbrook 1983 (camo); F.3 11 sqdn R.A.F Binbrook 1984 (gray)
Used decalsFrom package No. 19 Sqn (by Cartograph) + Xtradecal: 19/92 Sqns Dark GreenModeldecal: BAC/EE Lightning F.3 56 Sqn + Xtradecal: BAC/EE Lightning complete stencil data for use on aircraft in Natural Metal
Panel linesEncarved, consistent, nice over allRaised, inconsistant, nonexistant (old mold)
Used aftermarket partsDecals: Xtradecal: BAC/EE Lightning complete stencil data for use on aircraft in Natural Metal, Green.Grey camo, 19/92 Sqns Dark Green and the late Grey camouflage.; Master Model: PitotDecals: Modeldecal: BAC/EE Lightning F.3 56 Sqn; BAC/EE Lightning complete stencil data for use on aircraft in Natural Metal, Green.Grey camo, 19/92 Sqns Dark Green and the late Grey camouflage.; Master Model: Pitot
Colors usedAlclad: Grey Primer With Microfiller (302), Gloss Black Base (305), Gold Titanium (118), Clear yellow (402), Alclad: Aluminum (101), Dark Aluminum (103), Polished Aluminum (105), Dull Aluminum (117); Life Color: UA026 Tamiya: Flat Aluminum (XF-16), Nato Green (XF-67), Yellow Green (XF-4), Red (XF-27)Alclad: White Primer With Microfiller (306), Grey Primer With Microfiller (302), Gloss Black Base (305), Aluminum (101), Dark Aluminum (103), Polished Aluminum (105), Dull Aluminum (117), Tamiya: Red (XF-27)
WeatheringTamiya black panel-line accent color, MIG Cold grey wash, AK:s Dark streaking Grime (for dark green vehicles) (AK-070); Oil Paints: MIG Faded Navy Blue (ABT030), VanGogh Cadmium Lemon (212 series 2); Pigments: AK Black (AK-039), MIG Dark Mud (P033)Tamiya black panel-line accent color; MIG Cold grey wash; Pigments: AK Black (AK-039), MIG Dark Mud (P033), MIG Gun Metal (P231)
Other stuff neededSidecutters, Flory Models scinny sticks, other files, Erem zweezers, Fiskars scissors, Archimedean drill, Badger 360 airbrush, Micron masking tapes 0,4mm, 0,7mm 1,0mm, Xtracolor clear varnish, Tamiya 6mm masking tape, soldering tins 0,56mm, 0,7mm, 1mm, Micro Set/Sol, Glues: Revell needle-glue, Tamiya extra-thin, Erikeeper;
Reference booksWings of Fame: vol 2, Scale Aircraft Modeller 2014-02, Lightning Britains first and last supersonic fighter
Good thingsCan be build out of box, fit is good, good decals, pilotCheap (but the new one is 50 years newer and still costed only about three times more), general shape looks ok (except nose and exhaust)
Bad thingsSome panel lines in fuselage seems odd, plastic has some texture on it50 years old kit and moulds are old, raised detail extreamly incoherent/nonexistant, nonexistant cockpit, canopy is thick and not too clear, (canopy shape?), no intake duct, no exhaust pipes, shallow front wheel well, no detail in wheel wells, etc. etc.
ConclusionVery goodBad, avoid with all costs

Next the pictures..
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Thatmas

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Last picture is for size comparison..

Picture quality seems horrible, I have to try to do something about it... and pictures of individual planes (although it's not the point)
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Thatmas

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Picture quality seems to depend on browser? In Opera those seems horrible, but in Firefox they are better as in Chrome, but they aren't as sharp as in picture editor.. I tried some new options in picture quality. Here are the results: 

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Interpolation: Cubic 
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Interpolation: Linear

I think picture quality is out of my hands. 
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Thatmas

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BAC Lightning F.3 (old)

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Thatmas

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English Electric Lightning F.2A

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Bubs666

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Beautiful finish on both planes especially like the effect on the missile fireing
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Glad to see you made it in time ! All the hard work you have put in really shows in the finished planes ! The missile firing is touch of genius, love it, well done

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srp71

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Amazing finale love the firing missile. Beautiful detail 
Well done

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eduardo

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Awesome[thumb]
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RossiM1

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Stunning absolutely stunning, the way that old F3 turned out is pure artistry and skill, and as others have commented the missile launch is a touch of brilliance.
Well done all your hard work has been well rewarded and its great to see them finished in time.
Gary

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Not one kit but TWO, and one of them a real challenge. you stayed the course, did the work, and the results are fantastic.

notes about pictures online:

1. your camera captures the image data and determines the size of the RAW image

2. Lighting is a big factor in quality. flash photography is tricky, and continuous light has to be really strong to get what you need.

3. editing the image can bring out color and detail when other factors are weak.

4. when you upload your images to a photo-sharing site, it may alter the image size [unless you set that factor] and you can lose some of your quality. its all about understanding
what the site does with images. I use Picassa and it automatically changes image quality. I have to go back and tell it not to do that.

5. you have some great pictures---seems like lighting may be letting you down a bit???

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pinterest pg. of scale models/dioramas:
http://www.pinterest.com/intrstinpintrst/awesome-scale-models/


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Thatmas

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Thank you for your too kind comments!

I got inspiration about missile firing from this picture which I saw in Tim McLellands book (quite inspiring book!).

TedUSA: 

1. I only have an old 7.1MP camera with no RAW option.. perhaps I should buy a new one.

2. I prefer sunlight and there was cloudy/rainy day yesterday (and today). I shoot those pictures outside.. I only have one light with right white. I should buy another good light bulb.

3. I use Gimp, and there is as much options as in Photoshop, but I really need to practice its usage.

4. I use FTP transfer, it shouldn't alter anything?

5. Thanks! Weather let me down... not enough sunlight.

Thanks for private mail, I took liberty to put that in here:

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TedUSA:s extreamly nicely Photoshoped picture of F.2A
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