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thanks for clarifying that! shows how much research I did not do [seriously]. GREAT reference photo.I saw a hole in the floor in front of the co-pilot seat and was positive I had to stick something in it. Shut up Pete!! LMAOWROF


It didn't impress the judge when I used the same excuse Ted lol

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Nigel,
thanks for clarifying that! shows how much research I did not do [seriously]. GREAT reference photo.I saw a hole in the floor in front of the co-pilot seat and was positive I had to stick something in it. Shut up Pete!! LMAOWROF
It didn't impress the judge when I used the same excuse Ted lol Pete


 Pete, I was just waiting to see what you would come up with---and you did not disappoint! hehehehehe....

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Very thin coat of vallego Grey primer on the tub and seats, next comes dark grey, then  kicking out some detail with a light grey, specific instruments with other colors + sanding a bit of the dark grey off to reveal the grey primer. washes and pastels. lions and tigers and bears.



now switching to tanks and ordinance for a bit. I really thought I was through with "tanks" for a while? But no, MORE tanks!! yikes!



actually, one of the "tanks" appears to be the Suu-23A 20MM gun pod. Nice ordinance to be included in this kit.



http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=265641





did not find anything similar to the canon's actual barrel. not sure about the pylon being in the Academy kit? worth scratchbuilding? its usually a AM resin purchase.
just noticed that one cannon image has some vents on top--like the kit canon--but the other one does not. design changes I guess? or slightly different models.

Opening the "vents" which are way too thick walled. after opening is finished, I will replace the center support per the pictures.



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Interesting, might modify and use that one. Suprised that only one has vents. That gat gun is going to get pretty hot, maybe they had to modify the cooling, just a guess now.

I will have a look through my GW bits box as quite a few 40K Orcs used that type of gun, they might just fit.

Haven't looked at the weapons yet, you say this one came with the kit?
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Think this is one of those "it's on the sprue but not part of this kit" things. Got the same thing in my kit, but seems like it's missing a few things. Also from the little bit of research I did it looks like the one without the vent is the suu-16 or some other older gun pod and the vent is on all the suu-23a pods.
This is a pretty good picture of it


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Kenny,
I saw that picture when I googled "Phantom F-4B gun pod images". beautiful deadly weapon. I saw a painting that is from an actual pilots book about his phantom experiences. the Phantom in that picture had three of these! can you imagine the vibration and recoil? maybe they addressed those problems. History says that they were prone to jam, and at the same time very deadly--reminds me of the cannon on an A-10? at any rate, here is my cheap imitation of the real thing:



I can add the rivets around the business end! thank you for posting!

using Kenny's picture that he posted, I scribed a panel line around the business end of the pod and added some rivets. got a bit carried away of course. need to knock the panel line and rivets back a bit with some vallego plastic putty?



I also need to squeeze in a few more holes in the end of the cannon.

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That is looking really good Ted. That is some weapon!
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Put the OFTB version together and just needs a few needle holes.



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Great scratch building guys...personally I am going missiles, fuel tanks and bombs...no scratch building required...phew!
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Ted didn't mean to put my build pic on your build, think I left my head on the pillow this morning.
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I'm glad you did Nigel. did you find that gun in the Academy kit? I searched but I did not see one. I should have used a piece of sprue for the whole gun on mine instead of the wire. I think the gun has 3 or 4 barrels? now I am thinking about changing it! par for my course.LOL

every time I look at the gun pod it looks more and more like some kind of strange porpoise or dolphin--bottle nose kind of?

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Ted,

It is part no. K29 on the same sprue.

Are you thinking of mounting this on you model?
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Ted, It is part no. K29 on the same sprue. Are you thinking of mounting this on you model?


HMMmmm....the K sprue is a black sprue in my Kit [2012 issue date].  K29 was one of the ejection seat head rests. the gun pod came off of the Q sprue where the fuel tanks were located. we may have kits issued on different dates? the gun pod is not in my instructions.at first I thought it was a sensor pod.

I am seriously thinking about using it although it was primarily an upgrade to F-4 C's and F-4D's and F-4E's and Phantom II's. Its an interesting ordinance. I guess I have to decide between visual interest and historical accuracy?
if I do use it I will probably replace the wire and heat shield end with a piece of sprue sanded down to a  more correct shape for the barrels? or maybe multiple smaller pieces of wire glued together?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M61_Vulcan

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Found the barrel in my kit on F29 and the gunpod halves were F24 and F25. Found a sprue picture from the academy f-4b kit online and circled the barrel in red on it. Looks like it's in the same place as on my kit, but the picture isn't quite good enough to be able to tell sprue letters or numbers.

Hope that helps.

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OMG, I'm wondering where my head is today. Think it's going to take me awhile to get used to these new meds.

Kenny is right, all the part are from F sprue. I've highlighted all the unused items on that frame and there are 2 important pieces that have to be attached to the pod, parts 33 and 34. I think the pylon is made up from the other items.



Because the gun pod we have has the rear cover on it it can only be put in one place.



The Hasegawa kit has the short flat reared pod. Ground crew found that when they mounted the pod on a wing pylon it interfered with the landing gear, so actually removed the rear casing.

sorry for sprue mix up.

I like the pod so much that I'm going to use it, but not attach it to the plane itself
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