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For this GB I got the new tooling Dornier DO 17z from Airfix. This will be a straight out of the box build with no extras. I only took a couple pictures before I started, little too eager to dive in! [biggrin]

[Do-17z-build01]    [Do-17z-build02] [Do-17z-build03]   

The spruces all come in one big bag, with just the clear parts separate.  The instructions come on flat standard paper, not the glossy of Eduard  but seem well detailed.  The parts themselves are well detailed for the scale, fit together really well but seem to have a lot of flash and ejector marks. So far the ejector marks seem to be in non-visible area, but will have to keep an eye out for them.

[Do-17z-build04]  [Do-17z-build05] 
and an example of the flash, this one piece has 7 pieces of flash on it. (it could work at Chotchkie's). I've read on some boards that people claim these are "handles" for use while painting. That is a lot of handles. 
[Do-17z-build06]  I just say that Nigel is also doing this kit, although the “dogfight doubles” version.  Will be interesting to see if there is any difference in the kits, although his instructions look the same as mine.

 


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I’ve been researching the markings of the planes included in the kit. I’ve found pictures of both, and a bit of their history. The reason I am doing a stock kit and 1/72nd scale is because I will be attempting a diorama for this. I had planned on making a crash landing of some type. My initial idea was to model the plane ditched in the channel. So that would allow the plane to be more intact. One set of decals included with the kit   (A1+Bz) 15 staffel/KG 55 served in the Ukraine, and doesn’t seem to have  much of a chance for a water ditch.

 

 

The one I was looking at building, 3Z + GS  (8 staffel/KG 77) did actually get shot down, but over land.

 

 

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As you can see in the picture, the front of the plane was completely demolished.  Rather then modeling a smashed piece of metal, I am going to employ a bit of “artistic license” and model it that it came down in a bit more intact state. Maybe in the water, continuing with my original idea. 

 

Here is the report:

 

“Intercepted over Tonbridge by three Hurricanes at 8,000 ft. and jettisoned their remaining bomb load of nine 50 kg bombs (having previously dropped six 50 kg over Kenley airfield). The first attack killed the rear gunner and the pilot made for some clouds but a further two attacks were made before the aircraft crashed in a hop field, killing the wireless operator. Although the nose of the aircraft was badly smashed, it did not catch fire and the engines were virtually undamaged. Markings: a white shield bearing a black eagle was painted on either side of the nose. Armament: the aircraft was fitted with six MG's, one in nose, two side top, one rear top and two lower. Armour plate was fitted behind the pilot and the wireless operator.”

 

 

Researching the aircraft, it had the standard RLM 02/70 top and RLM 65 bottom. I also found “ Reichsluftministrium (RLM) regulations state that prior to November 1941, cockpits/crew areas were to be RLM Green-Gray 02, with the exception of instrument panels, which were Gray with black instrument faces.” I am using Vallejo paints, and their RLM 02 comes out a nice olive green with a touch of grey. 


The end of 3Z + GS

[do17-x6] 



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Looks like this will be an interesting project to watch, a crash diorama is an excellent idea

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Starting work, Painting the cabin areas. The base is Vallejo Model Air RLM 02, with dashboards in RLM 66.

( I need to work on the photography, not as sharp as I would like) 

Before the wash.

[Do-17z-build08]  [Do-17z-build09]  [Do-17z-build10] 
After wash
[Do-17z-build13]  [Do-17z-build14]  [Do-17z-build15] 


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Now with a big of touch up and some matt added

[Do-17z-build16]  [Do-17z-build17]  [Do-17z-build18]  [Do-17z-build19]  [Do-17z-build20] 

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Looking great so far, good to see you in the build too mate.
And they aren't handles. They're ejection points off the piece so you don't get pin marks on them. [smile]

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One thing I do find a bit annoying about the Airfix kits is that everything is done with humbrol colors. They don't give a name, just the humbrol color number. I found this number to RLM color helpful. Posting in case anyone else can use it.

240 RLM 02 Grau Matt
241 RLM 70 Schwartzgrun Matt
242 RLM 71 Dunkelgrun Matt
243 RLM 72 Grun Matt
244 RLM 73 Grun Matt
245 RLM 74 Graugrun Matt
246 RLM 75 Grauviolett Matt
247 RLM 76 Lichtblau Matt
248 RLM 78 Himmelblau Matt
249 RLM 79 Sandgelb Matt
251 RLM 81 Dunkelbraun Matt
252 RLM 82 Olivgrun Matt
253 RLM 83 Dunkel-Grun Matt

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Looking good Kin!! I read a lot of good things about this kit
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Nice start, looking very nice, it's real pain when you only get numbers for the colour call outs, how hard would it be for them just to say dark grey or green or whatever Revell are just as bad and the weird names they give their colours

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Good start Kintoo. I must admit I'm quite disappointed with the kit (it is the same as the dog fight one). Although you have loads of ejector tabs surrounding a piece there are still pin marks on the part. I can only think that they had problems getting the sprues out of the molds.
I've noticed there's too much flash too.

Anyway I don't want to distract from the quality of your painting skills, The detail is excellent. [thumb]
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Kin, talking about Airfix numbering their colours I thought you might find this interesting. The manual shows a lot of items need to be coloured with number 27, but it doesn't mention what colour that is. Oops!
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I found an app IModelkit. With that you can make cross references between the different paint produceres
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I found an app IModelkit. With that you can make cross references between the different paint produceres


Thanks Steen, unfortunate that they don't do an Android version. [frown]
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I found an app IModelkit. With that you can make cross references between the different paint produceres
Thanks Steen, unfortunate that they don't do an Android version. [frown]


There's an app called "Hobby Color Converter" for Android. Haven't used it a lot but I think it's quite helpful

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I found an app IModelkit. With that you can make cross references between the different paint produceres
Thanks Steen, unfortunate that they don't do an Android version. [frown]


There's an app called "Hobby Color Converter" for Android. Haven't used it a lot but I think it's quite helpful

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Cheers Daniel, will give that a try [thumb]
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