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Worso

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Heeeello everyone,

As I posted in the "Say hello forum" I post here my WiP of the Bf-109 E-4.

A beatiful box:

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In the inside of the fuselage you can read the number: 1976. Many, many years...

A bit of the work done until now.


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Everything is painted with a brush, the airbrush is not allowed to me. I have a 2 and a half years old daughter and if she see the airbrush or the compressor she will want to take them and that means I will have to say good bye to them.

I made a mistake painting and weathering the engine cover before fit it in place. The fit is not so accurate and I will have to sand so the painting and weathering work will worth nothing.

Well, that's all for now. Any comment will be very apreciated.

One question: Now that I have the fuselage closed I have realized if I sand it to fix the fiting I will remove the transversal positive panellines on the top of the fuselage..... How can I avoid it?

Hugs.

Worso
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G'day Worso and welcome to the forum mate, and well done getting a WIP up and running too. Your pilot looks great and love the nose treatment on the BF, would've been nice if you were able to keep it. Can you use superglue for the gap then mask off your nose and sand that way? It's a bit hard to see from the pic what work needs to be done. There is a huge gap there I can see but that looks like it could close up with some clamping?

You'll probably have to re-scribe your panel lines along the fuselage join. It's pretty much standard with these builds, can't be avoided really.

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Hi Miguel, nice to see your work. I'm quite new in the forum too and I know it can be a little nerve wrecking to show your own work. As far as i can see your brush painting skills are really good. If you have to repaint some parts because of sanding don't mind. It's not about speed but as you saying yourself about relaxing and learning ;-).
I'm not quite sure what you mean about the panel lines; are they raised? If they are its hard to don't lose them while sanding. In this case I guess you could rescribing the lines with a scribing tool. Simon knows everything about it (watch his Tomcat WIP) ;-).
Is this really the gap of the fuselage in the pictures or are you showing a dry fit? Maybe you can make the cockpit a little smaller by sending it to close the gap and then put on some pressure to "make them fit"?
Good luck and have fun. Looking forward to see more of your return to the hobby :-)

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Really nice start Miguel, the yellow engine cowl looks great, I love the weathering. Is the cockpit holding those halves apart like that , or does it just need clamping together ?
It's almost impossible not to remove the detail when you sand the seams, you can use masking tape either side of the join to preserve most of the detail, but I'm pretty sure the Bf-109 has a seam running along the top of the fuselage on the real thing, so I wouldn't worry too much about filling it.

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Worso

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I am so sorry for the delaying on answering and thanksgiving your commets. Hope you can understand me, English language is not my natural tongue.

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G'day Worso and welcome to the forum mate,


Thanks a lot.

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and well done getting a WIP up and running too. Your pilot looks great and love the nose treatment on the BF, would've been nice if you were able to keep it. Can you use superglue for the gap then mask off your nose and sand that way? It's a bit hard to see from the pic what work needs to be done. There is a huge gap there I can see but that looks like it could close up with some clamping?


Thanks for the advise, but finally I have desided to fit the cowl,  sandding the gasps, repainting and reweathering... Perhaps I don't get the same effect but I think it will be the easiest way to resolve my mistake =). The gasp in the fuselage is not so that thick, the two parts were not glued when I took the photos... I would have to clear it in the post.

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You'll probably have to re-scribe your panel lines along the fuselage join. It's pretty much standard with these builds, can't be avoided really.


However, panel lines are raised. I have desided to sand then and lost only 2 or 3 milimeter of panel lines, then cloaking that space with some kind of postshading. I'm not very convinced if the final result will be good but.... I don't really know how to rescribe a raised panel line, even if it can be done.

Thanks a lot for your comments Simon.

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Hi Miguel, nice to see your work. I'm quite new in the forum too and I know it can be a little nerve wrecking to show your own work.


Thank you and yes it is. You are right. I was thinking for a week or so if to post or not [biggrin]. Now I am convinced that I took the best decision.

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As far as i can see your brush painting skills are really good. If you have to repaint some parts because of sanding don't mind. It's not about speed but as you saying yourself about relaxing and learning ;-).


Wow, that encourages me to keep going on!!! Thanks a lot!!! And yes I agree with you hobby is about relaxing with a bit of masochism [biggrin]

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I'm not quite sure what you mean about the panel lines; are they raised? If they are its hard to don't lose them while sanding. In this case I guess you could rescribing the lines with a scribing tool. Simon knows everything about it (watch his Tomcat WIP) ;-).


I know there are tools (like the P-cutter) to rescribe panel lines, however, are there tools for raised panel lines?? I don't know them... hum.... interesting...

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Is this really the gap of the fuselage in the pictures or are you showing a dry fit? Maybe you can make the cockpit a little smaller by sending it to close the gap and then put on some pressure to "make them fit"?


AS I say to Simon, the gasp in the fuselage is not that thick, the two parts were not glued when I took the photos.

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Good luck and have fun. Looking forward to see more of your return to the hobby :-)


Thanks a lot for your comment, Fabian . I hope this return be a lasting one.

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Really nice start Miguel, the yellow engine cowl looks great, I love the weathering. Is the cockpit holding those halves apart like that , or does it just need clamping together ?


Thanks a lot for your comment. It really encourage me to continue modelling. The two parts needed clamping together. Now they are glued, filled and sanded [biggrin]

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It's almost impossible not to remove the detail when you sand the seams, you can use masking tape either side of the join to preserve most of the detail, but I'm pretty sure the Bf-109 has a seam running along the top of the fuselage on the real thing, so I wouldn't worry too much about filling it.


I desided to remove two or three milimeter of raised panel lines on the top part of the fuselage and removing the gasp between the two parts. I also had an ugly mark of the join with the sprue that I had to remove.

Thanks a lor for your comments, Pete.

Now, I will post here my lastest advances. They are from the last Friday but I haven't had any time to post here and I wanted to post all together.

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One thing I have realised seeing my own photographs is that I have to improve my photograph skills... What an awful photos I made!!!!! [biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]  

As you can see I have removed all the gasp line between the two parts of the fuselage... and this way part of the panel lines.

The next job, the wings. I hope to have a bit of time to advance the model this weekend. Let's see.[rolleyes]

Thanks in advance for your comments

Miguel
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SimonD

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Miguel fantastic replies there mate, I think you covered everything.
My apologies I assumed the panel lines were recessed. Yeah raised panel lines are a different kettle of panel lines altogether. lol I'm glad you got things resolved, however, I can't see the images in your last post? I don't know if it's me or the link isn't right somehow? I'm interested in seeing your results. [smile]

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Worso

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Uhmm, I can't see them neither now. [confused][confused] [confused][confused]

I think I have made a mistake uploading them to google drive. Let me check it this afternoon, I will move them to picasa or something like that.
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Worso

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I think the images are right, now!

But I keep thinking that are awful!!!! [biggrin][biggrin]
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No they look fine from here (they always look awful before paint) and wow! You can really see the raised rivet detail hey? Put the sanding sticks away. lol
That should come up nicely at the paint/weather stage. [smile]

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I am always amazed at work in 1/72. that pilot looks absolutely GREAT. such good paint work! WOW
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