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Back from the "stay-cation" and at the bench at UNIT 7....so glad.

another coat of PLEDGE on the P-38 and then let it dry for several hours. Taking a risk by using a felt tip pen to "create" some preshade where the panel lines would be. All of the surface detail was raised, lines and rivets. I sanded these down quite a bit---just left a very slight ridge that you can see/feel. I also colored some of the smaller panels with the same pen. I am planning to 1.correct the anti glare problem on the nose of the cockpit/gun section, darken the panels that originally were masked and AB with super thinned Tamiya XF-1 flat black. I will go a bit darker this time and then I will be misting some more silver metal color over the entire plane. So what I am looking for is the felt tip pen lines and the shaded panels to be the pre-shade before I add the additional silver. Just have to see how it works. If it is OK, I will PLEDGE it again, decal, sludge wash, add the tiny bits and spinning props/spinners. mount to base and get on with the next project---finishing the Phantom F-4!









Also spent the time to begin the repeat on the spinning prop. cut the acetate discs, sanded, made a new template to spray the blade blur, then all I have to do is add the prop tip blur color. hope I get it "right" this time? fingers crossed.

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OK, UNIT 7 started off fine today, then everything fell in the DITCH! Barely escaped with my sanity. details forthcoming.







In the future I will have a "basic" blue in an acrylic paint that I can add some white or dark color to to give me the shade I need. These oils were a horror to mix. I used the turpentine substitute and I think I should have used lacquer thinner???  At any rate, It took me almost 45 minutes to get the AB to spray the blue mix. finally got it done--took the AB apart afterwards and cleaned it thoroughly.....or did I???

After I assembled the AB I sprayed some homebrew thinner through and all seemed well. I was out of the model master stainless steel I had used originally so I switched to Vallego Silver and a drop of Vallego gunmetal grey. The color mix looked good. I mixed it in the AB cup with some homebrew thinner going in first. it was about  a 50/50 mix. I checked my AB pressure and tested it on a paper towel---no paint came out. I blocked the needle with a rag and opened the air---bubbled well. Recheck for spray--nothing. repeated the back blowing several times but no results when I tried to spray some paint. GRRRRRR............I dumped the paint and took the AB apart--completely. I cleaned and cleaned, used tiny brushes to clear out the parts. Washed it all with lacquer thinner, then 91% IPA. re-assembled and put some IPA in the cup. No go! IN FACT, when I cut the air in, the contents of the cup shot straight up! BLOCKAGE!!!..... I blocked the needle again and got lots of blow back. too much--NOTHING was going OUT of the AB....NOTHING, except the IPA being propelled straight up out of the cup.

Disassembled the AB again. cleaned it again. no specific particles found.

Reassembled and when I loaded the cup with IPA, it sprayed out perfect! YAY....I dumped the ISP, wiped the cup out and reloaded the AB with homebrew thinner and the silver mix. ALL GOOD now....whew. check the spray? yes.......and nothing came out. I also found a huge leak of bad words coming from my mouth!! *&^%$(*&^%$@!.

I blocked the needle and cut in the air--bubbles. Spray? barely. more blow back, no paint moving. More blow back and now the paint check was perfect on the paper towel! sweat equity and patience had paid off!

Now lets Ab some paint on the P-38.....................................nope.

More blow back sessions and tests. Perfect paint flow/spray,.......but never when I began to paint the model!!! I tell you, this was getting really maddening.

I got an idea! don't cut the AB spray/paint off once it is going fine on the paper towel. OK. this worked! AB on paper towel is good, then slide over to the P-38 and spray for 10-15 seconds, then blocked again.

There HAD to be something in the AB that came out into the cup during blow back, but then settled back into the needle/nib area within so many seconds.

I finally took my Evolution AB completely apart and cleaned it again---used LOTS of liquids and washing, brushes, more liquids.

I put the Evolution aside and loaded my Veda 180 up---it worked fine. My ink pen lines and colored panels idea did not pan out too well. I simply re-painted the entire P-38 with several light coats and covered it well with the Vallego silver/gunmetal grey mix by the end of the session.

P-38 left to dry and I cleaned the Veda AB. turned out the lights and got the H&%$# out of UNIT 7.

could have been worse? Yep.........LOL





tomorrow I will assemble both AB systems and see what happens.





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Ted, I admire your steal my man, if that would have been me the P38 would be back in the box and on the shelf. Your fighting this one all the way but it looks like you have it under control. I fell out with aircraft modelling some time back after a particularly bad encounter with a Harrier but watching you guy's building the flighty things the urge is returning. My problem was that my skills were not up to my visions and always left me disappointed. I haven't posted it yet but I have made a start on a Helldiver which I intend on doing in Fleet Air Arm colours, this also means some changes to make to turn it into the right type. Maybe not a good idea on my first trip back to aviation but this kit has been screaming at me from the stash for sometime. Any way, that's another story for another time.

Keep going with this one, your nearly there and your doing a sterling job mate.

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Ted, I admire your steal my man, if that would have been me the P38 would be back in the box and on the shelf. Your fighting this one all the way but it looks like you have it under control. I fell out with aircraft modelling some time back after a particularly bad encounter with a Harrier but watching you guy's building the flighty things the urge is returning. My problem was that my skills were not up to my visions and always left me disappointed. I haven't posted it yet but I have made a start on a Helldiver which I intend on doing in Fleet Air Arm colours, this also means some changes to make to turn it into the right type. Maybe not a good idea on my first trip back to aviation but this kit has been screaming at me from the stash for sometime. Any way, that's another story for another time.

Keep going with this one, your nearly there and your doing a sterling job mate.

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Martin,
Thank you very much for your support. I find it very hard to think about tossing something away once I have a certain amount of work invested in it. When I was a child my parents were poor, so everything we had was very important--we could not replace anything. When I left home to get married, I still had several of the toys that I had been given for Christmas when I was just a boy. When I finish the two projects I have going now, I am headed back to finish the Phantom F-4 That I started as part of a group build in 2014. I am not sure why I am building a kit from 1976 when I have some really great modern kits in the stash. Someone gave me this pitiful little kit that was laying in their basement for years. I kept looking at the tattered box and thinking, "I can make something out of that old thing"---its sort of how I feel about my life right now. I've been down before, and I was almost "out" twice in my life. The thing is, somehow I rose from the ashes--and I am still trying to do something with my life. Its a bit tattered and faded, but I still got a few parts worth working with. Well, &^%*, I almost wrote a book!! LOL. Cheers to you Martin, give that Helldiver a run! Nothing in these model boxes an really hurt us, just bruise the old ego now and again.

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finally found some old newsreel footage of the P-38 firing its "rockets". When I googled "P-38 firing missiles" I never found anything. "Rockets" was the correct word to get the videos.



several more videos of P-38 firing rockets on the same page as the link above.

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Airbrush problems are a real pain Ted ! It's frustrating when you want to get on but the equipment won't play ball.
Did you figure out what was causing the blockage ?

I wonder if it's a problem caused by the residue of different paints and thinners used in the same brush ? I used to be able to spray Tamiya and Vallejo (after cleaning of course) in the same brush with no problems, but the last couple of times it's been making the Vallejo gum up something terrible, and I'm sure it's down to the thinners I use for the Tamiya and gunze paint (I've been using hot thinners for a long time and maybe a residue stays in the seals even after a god clean ?)

I tried the Vallejo with a brush that had never been used and it was fine, so I'm keeping that aside one just to use with Vallejo and Lifecolor now.

The Lightning is looking good though Ted ! And the prop blur is a wonderful effect that I will definitely be trying out in the future

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Airbrush problems are a real pain Ted ! It's frustrating when you want to get on but the equipment won't play ball. Did you figure out what was causing the blockage ? I wonder if it's a problem caused by the residue of different paints and thinners used in the same brush ? I used to be able to spray Tamiya and Vallejo (after cleaning of course) in the same brush with no problems, but the last couple of times it's been making the Vallejo gum up something terrible, and I'm sure it's down to the thinners I use for the Tamiya and gunze paint (I've been using hot thinners for a long time and maybe a residue stays in the seals even after a god clean ?) I tried the Vallejo with a brush that had never been used and it was fine, so I'm keeping that aside one just to use with Vallejo and Lifecolor now. The Lightning is looking good though Ted ! And the prop blur is a wonderful effect that I will definitely be trying out in the future Pete


AB problems indeed. When I got back to UNIT 7 today the Evolution "bath" was filled with hundreds of bits of whitish/silvery residue. I agree with your diagnosis of an accumulation of other paint. I think it was leftover Model Master Stainless Steel. I cleaned the evolution after the model master paint and I used some lacquer thinner. Guess I did not do a "good" job? I also think that the "odorless turpentine" I used with the Model Master stainless steel fouled the Vallego Silver? the Vallego paint seemed to be "boiling" in the cup. Everything was back to normal today. One other observation. I back tracked and checked the date on the MM paint---2002!!!! I bought that paint at the local one owner hobby shop. OLD PAINT!
Thanks for the kind comments about the P-38.

Today I started some decals. they are very thin [aftermarket] and fragile! found this out on the tail boom stripe [see picture below]. In addition, the micro sol seemed to eat right into the layers of pledge I AB on and "dull" the silver. Metal colors are so fragile if anything gets to them. I removed the excess Micro sol with a Q-tip asap after applying the decals. still had some disturbance of the paint.
All in all the decals went down well and the Micro set sucked them down tight to the surface of the plastic.

Before the decals--three layers of PLEDGE [FUTURE] to protect the metal finish during decals,......but I still had problems. Hmmmm...........Maybe they had not dried hard enough? 24 hours in low humidity environment. Hmmmmm...........any ideas guys? I also made sure that the decal was ready to slide on the plane BEFORE I applied any micro sol.



I will have to mix more of the artists oils and repair this decal tear......GRRRRRR. I was hoping not to have to mix any more of that mess. I had a real hard time getting it just right.


Love to see the decals against the silver. they "pop" very nice.


See the "wrinkles" in the paint? see the "white" area on the tips? the pledge did that to the enamel paint which had dried for 24+ hours. It "ate" into the paint and seemed to dissolve it and make it slide down the spinner. I have not had this happen before. was it the [artists] oil paint? I have been using that PLEDGE on every model I have built with not one single problem.

looks like I will be repainting the spinners and repairing that stripe on the tail boom. I am going to find some Tamiya med blue and mix tamiya white to get it the correct shade.

Thats all for the P-38 at UNIT 7 today. definitely a better day than yesterday!.........definitely.

EDIT: totally forgot to address the repeat attempt on the "spinning propellers"....FAIL X 2. First of all, the discs are not perfectly round. that comes from trying to use a template over the acetate and cut them out with scissors. Just not a good idea and I repeated it. Then, when I went to paint the spinning tip blurs--over painted and crooked since the acetate discs are not really round, they looked horrible. I've got to go to the craft store and get a "circle cutter". Not too expensive and it should produce the true circles I need. The paint and the biting point of the AB have to be perfect for this "illusion" to work effectively. there can be no errors or they are nothing but distractions. More later.


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So close to the finish line now Ted, nearly time for tea and medals! In my last post I said about putting kits back in the box, don't get me wrong they never go in the bin, it's all far to precious. I have fallen out of love with a kit before but it goes no further than the old shelf of doom. By the way, had a look at your Phantom build, another master piece in the making.

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Looking good Ted.  Keep them coming.  I have had trouble with the floor polish before but with me it was cracking but I haven't heard of problems with it going on enamel and even with that its still an excellent job.  Well done mate.
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Oh brother! I just finished a good length of text here and my computer crashed [with a NEW hard drive!]. I can't repeat all I typed but I want to say a special thanks to Martin and Ian. You guys know how to cheer me up and it is very much appreciated. I think my problem with the floor polish around the decals was over application of the micro sol---yep. today I was much more sparing and had no problems. I have to learn to think smaller, tiny, easy, slowly slowly catchy monkey. I still don't know what made the prop spinners flop but it probably had to do with the "odorless turpentine" as the thinner??

I was scared [witless or something like that] becasue the radiator decals were in 3 pieces for each side. all in all they went down great. I was very proud until I saw that I had placed the right middle section on backwards!! Oh well, it is on tight. I may mask it off later and attempt a paint repair. got to weigh the odds of a worse disaster vs a better outcome.










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Its amazing how applying the decals just add a bit more life to a model and yours looks "sound as a pound".  I especially like the blue checker board on the radiators which just draws the eye.  This looks "champion bonny lad" as we say in the north east of England.
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Ian,

Thank you very much. I've often thought that a "bare" model was like a woman with no makeup---the potential is there but the full beauty is best realized with the extras. When I did [human] model photography a model would arrive with no makeup. if she was young she might look very nice--however--when the makeup artist was finished, the looks were usually very stunning. I see decals as the "artistic makeup". As for the "champion bonny lad" thank you again. I have been learning modeling skills and language on Genessis. Pete [brundledonk-sp?] can really bring on the British slang.

Cheers!

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I was working away on two things for the P-38 today. I found a "circle cutter" yesterday and was able to use it to cut 2 new discs for the "spinning props". they look MUCH better than my first attempts using a template and scissors. I was out of sheets of clear acetate [well, I only had one sheet--the hobby shop was out of stock and the owner gave me one for free that he had in his work room]. I used an acetate piece from a product package i had on hand. It is blurry but I am going to sand it anyway--blurry is OK for this scratchbuilt part. I got some more decals on and had a rather funny "lost a decal could not find it episode". come to find out, it had somehow gotten stuck on my tweezers after I had applied it to the model.











I also applied some stencils in various places on the P-38 and then got a call from my GF---she was leaving work early. I finished up and left UNIT 7.

Here is a picture of Karen, my sweetheart for the past 11 years! She can make a man forget his hobby!



Have a great weekend gentlemen, I am celebrating the 4th of July here so probably won't be back at UNIT 7 till next Monday?

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More decal work today and a bit of application of a "blue acrylic paint" that I found at the craft store. This paint works well--I repainted the spinners--and is available in hundreds of colors through the entire color chart. you also get a LOT more paint for your $$$ Question is,.....what will it do in an AB? I thinned it with Bobs homebrew thinner and it worked great with a larger soft brush.HMmmmmmm...........could be valuable to have on hand??

the stencils were really tiny and readable on the decal backing sheet, difficult to photo on the silver P-38. Favorite decals besides the checkered radiator decals?---the TIGER jaws/teeth/eyes.anxious to see how they settle down overnight. Some cowl intake painting to do and a few decals that will wait till a bit later.













All for today for the P-38. PLEDGE coat needed. some paint as defined in the picture above, weathering?,..................and the small stuff, bits and bobs, underwing stores,etc. got to finish latest "spinning props"--assemble, base, mounting tube, and MAYBE a surprise!

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Just a bit of work today--short time at the UNIT.

masked and painted the damaged "stripe" decal on the port boom, repainted the spinners, and then masked the engine cowl intakes and painted the inside of the intakes white flat white with a small brush.







that's all for today!

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