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Well here we go, first post here and first time I decided that hey screw it lets do this build for fun and see where things go. So as the title suggests, I am doing an Avro CF-100 Canuck. But why the MK4 and MK5 designations? Well we shall get to that in a little bit.

So first off a little story on aquiring the kits....oops i mean kit. I belong to a Canuck group page on FaceBook where old pilots, techs and generally anyone that was involved with the Canuck gathers and chats. Being that as it is I put the word out for any Arrows or Canuck models nobody was building... least to say i got an answer back pretty quick from some gents who were eager to clear their stash which I can only assume meant that the wife told them to do so. Poor guys. Anyways Once those were in the post and on their way to me I started looking around for accessories. Lowe and behold there was infact a company that did infact make a large portion of detail components for the Canuck...IN 1/72 SCALE WOOHOO. SO that was about 6 months ago, I got the kit in and I made an order to OBSCURECO for their 1/72 Canuck sets....uh i mean SET. This was the beginning of a very frustrating relationship between myself and Steve from Obscureco. Fast forward 5 months and some aggressive emails as to why I did not have my parts and finally they landed in my lap. So here we started.

Once I can figure out how to post photos I will so if anyone can help with that it would be helpful. I fail to understand how I am unable to upload directly from my file folder and why I have to use a URL link.


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Hi Elmo, I hope this link is helpful http://genessis-models.websitetoolbox.com/post/uploading-photos-to-the-forum-5793011?pid=1280963169
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Ok  perfect. Alright well where to start. Unfortunately the old hobby craft boxes were not included in the shipment they just came in one cardboard box from the previous owner. Alas I hope that's not ground for disqualification from the competition.

[20170221_185903_zpsc55cs8mu]  So this is how stuff started, some cheapo plastic boxes to keep the builds organized, and yes my friends there is not one, but THREE CF-100 Canucks here to be built. To note some main differences between the MK 4 and MK 5. The MK 4 had shorter wings and tail empenage along with an anti iceing system in the nacelles around the turbine cone. This we shall tackle later.

[20170131_141343_zpsg2czd6g6] 
The trouble started on the resin set from Obscureco, being 1/72 and older moulds, some parts had snapped off of the instrument display and had to be re attached. Now I'm not the biggest fan of super glue so I use a UV curable resin called Bondic, similar to Laserbond in the UK, to reattach these. Thank goodness for helping hands.
[20170131_141350_zpsd3jktb2p] 

Here we can see the resin cockpit replacement in all of its glory. The only qualm I have is that the RIO's instrument display is attached and does not come separate therefor making any detail painting more challenging then a toothless beaver building a dam. With that being said everything is in good register and plenty of detail in the instrument panels themselves. Some may notice that there is a small nub in place of the control column. AHA will being that the actual column moves only forward and aft, the kit provides the stick on a separate sprue that the instrument panel and top panels are on as well as the gunsight. Fun times were had by all.......
[20170131_141535_zpslrjudxdu]  Here is the drop in replacement for the main gear bay, not much different from the kit provided one except for some framing and minor hose detailing, not much to gander at but hey, different strokes for different folks.
[20170131_141618_zpsxgtbhba8] 
Side panels yadda yadda. Only difficuklt part of the cockpit, not due to the detail on the front but.... [20170131_141709_zpsps8m71sz] The mould had to support this thin peice somehow so the two vertical braces must be carefully taken out of the hockey game for unnecissary conduct and the bottom brace must be taken down a blonde pubic hair to provide the correct angle in the pit itself.
[20170131_143857_zpski3nzif5]  [20170131_145625_zpshy0glwys] 
Little blue tack in the sides to provide the proper angle and UV resin ( blessed are the helping hands) to lock that sucker in there et voila. Now there aren't any real guides to tell you where these are to line up so a bit of tip tapping on google lead me to find where they should go and a quick dry fit with the tub proved hey I was in fact right. Don't let the wife know.
[20170131_153232_zpshm2nyg8f] 
Reminds me why I hate small scale

[20170221_185326_zps64jplc4o] 
So here's where I started getting adventurous. On the ground hydraulic pressure tends to bleed off by itself leading to the rather large airbrake to start drooping all on its own. " Hey Zack you should totally replicate that" I know I though so myself so after 3 hourse of finding where to cit and digging through the frozen tundras of Canuckistan to China, we arrive at this, now to do it three more times.....jesus feck.
[20170221_185354_zpsm83hwhqh]  Le tail empenage in all her glory, now note that here on a MK 5 the tip top of the tail is in face rounded, however for the previous MK 4 it was more square and flat. Same goes for the horizontal stabilizers, more flat and square.

Once the weather stops being Canadian then i can start spraying her up without the paint freezing in the pot. No I cant spray indoors because the wife wont let me yet and yes I did make the mistake of trying to spray at -3c once upon a moose.

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Huzzah, warm weather means painting weather. Now for this I use Badgers Stynylrez in black as I am a firm believer in the better colour variation it provides over grey and pre-shading. Teens had their goth phases and so do modelers, hopefully people grow out of pre-shading and move along as I have. Now the fuselage is interesting in that its a top and bottom construction, not a left and right build
. [20170221_185407_zpsln2u4ruu]  [20170221_185417_zpssgagmfep] 
[20170221_185421_zpswquss0v1]  [20170221_185444_zpsrcv0wfaj] 
[20170221_185508_zpseugrizqf]  [20170221_185530_zpsdjssltw7]  [20170221_185541_zpscqmbvcyf] 

So this is where we are at, you're all caught up. As you can see the control stick column snapped off and this will be reattached with the stick once all the parts begin to fall into place. The next task now is to paint all the detail in the pit, glue em all in. After that the work on the main gear bay and airbrake can begin. While stiff is drying I will probably workon the flaps to make them in a downward position with the whole hydraulic droop stuff goin on there.

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Nice work! Good pictures and I really like how you inject some humor into your text. Usually on a group build, spruce pictures are part of the beginning but I feel ok with your thread (but I am not an administrator here).subscribed!!
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So as promised ladies and lads, more progress. Be it small it is progress and any grizzly coming out of hibernation from a long winters drawl " RAWRRRHKKKLGKFKLJIJ{OIH"
Makes sense
[20170223_185929_zpsntj3ckjm] 

So to align with the gods that be ( and still keep in regs for the build) Here are the sprues and decals for the HobbyCraft 1/72 Scale Canuck


[20170223_190100_zpseohwv6pv] 

Here you can see the unmolested wing  prior to plastic surgery 


[20170223_190156_zpscqybnptx] 

The wonderful cockpit detail of the late 20th century compared to its resin counterpart...


[20170223_190208_zps1ncwmr8a]  [20170223_190255_zpspchg9mgb] 

More ancient travesties and their saviours

[20170223_190527_zps0vfaxnar] [20170223_190656_zpsdtszoi6t]    [20170223_190621_zpskhagsuih] 


Here's a little bit more detail in regards to the resin. A normal toothpick brings the intricacies of the detail to like here and really shows how this can accentuate this build.


[20170223_190754_zps1kv58zey]  [20170223_190840_zpssvqr4jpi]  


Now for some actual news. Paint has gone down on the seats and as per instructions provided by Obscureco and reference photos, the seats are anything from a light to dark tan or pale drab coulor. So I went for the good ol' leather tan from Testors in enamel. Seat belts are, and were in fact, blue 2:1 ration of tamiya blue and tamiya sky blue to add some fade. Parachute cord is white and the actual parachute cover is also a dark tan with some olive drab cord. Dry brushing and chipping shall follow.

[20170223_190936_zps7hfyzfm7] 






[20170223_191047_zpskrxaziqp] 


So here is a comparison of the needed surgery on the left for the resin bay to fit as well as the home made airbrake. The Original part is on the right.



[20170223_191420_zps4lzj4bxi] 


I think hes a little disappointed that I haven'y finished it in time for him. More small painting with sharpened toothpicks and dry brushig before that happens.




[20170223_192406_zps8oeu4fgd] 

Ok so here needs some explaination. remember when I said that there were differences between the Mk.4 and Mk.5 Canuck? Essentially here on the right wing top down view you can see I have roughly marked along the wing tip where the extension begins for a Mk.5. The Mk.4 will have to have this trimmed off but that's ok we need to make a proof of concept and finish one first. Also the flaps lines don?t line up you say? Well kiddies that because they didn't on the real one which is prefect because that gives me a really good edge to hang the flaps from and also adds the perfect angle when in position as well. Pretty freakin sweet it'd be maple syrup if you ask me. Anywho, thats all for now.

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So as promised ladies and lads, more progress. Be it small it is progress and any grizzly coming out of hibernation from a long winters drawl will tell you " RAWRRRHKKKLGKFKLJIJ{OIH"
Makes sense
[20170223_185929_zpsntj3ckjm] 

So to align with the gods that be ( and still keep in regs for the build) Here are the sprues and decals for the HobbyCraft 1/72 Scale Canuck


[20170223_190100_zpseohwv6pv] 

Here you can see the unmolested wing  prior to plastic surgery 


[20170223_190156_zpscqybnptx] 

The wonderful cockpit detail of the late 20th century compared to its resin counterpart...


[20170223_190208_zps1ncwmr8a]  [20170223_190255_zpspchg9mgb] 

More ancient travesties and their saviours

[20170223_190527_zps0vfaxnar] [20170223_190656_zpsdtszoi6t]    [20170223_190621_zpskhagsuih] 


Here's a little bit more detail in regards to the resin. A normal toothpick brings the intricacies of the detail to like here and really shows how this can accentuate this build.


[20170223_190754_zps1kv58zey]  [20170223_190840_zpssvqr4jpi]  


Now for some actual news. Paint has gone down on the seats and as per instructions provided by Obscureco and reference photos, the seats are anything from a light to dark tan or pale drab coulor. So I went for the good ol' leather tan from Testors in enamel. Seat belts are, and were in fact, blue 2:1 ration of tamiya blue and tamiya sky blue to add some fade. Parachute cord is white and the actual parachute cover is also a dark tan with some olive drab cord. Dry brushing and chipping shall follow.

[20170223_190936_zps7hfyzfm7] 






[20170223_191047_zpskrxaziqp] 


So here is a comparison of the needed surgery on the left for the resin bay to fit as well as the home made airbrake. The Original part is on the right.



[20170223_191420_zps4lzj4bxi] 


I think hes a little disappointed that I haven'y finished it in time for him. More small painting with sharpened toothpicks and dry brushig before that happens.




[20170223_192406_zps8oeu4fgd] 

Ok so here needs some explaination. remember when I said that there were differences between the Mk.4 and Mk.5 Canuck? Essentially here on the right wing top down view you can see I have roughly marked along the wing tip where the extension begins for a Mk.5. The Mk.4 will have to have this trimmed off but that's ok we need to make a proof of concept and finish one first. Also the flaps lines don?t line up you say? Well kiddies that because they didn't on the real one which is prefect because that gives me a really good edge to hang the flaps from and also adds the perfect angle when in position as well. Pretty freakin sweet it'd be maple syrup if you ask me. Anywho, thats all for now.

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Nice progress! congratulations.
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Looks like an interesting subject never heard of this aircraft before 
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Ok and we are back peckers and prunes. Little small thingies at the moment but most of the work that has been going on is working out how the airbrake system will actually sit in the bottom.

But without further ado, here's the progress made so far.

The canopy. Along with your Hobby Craft 1/72 Avro CF-100 MK.5 Canuck you will receive a single peice clear canopy and front section all wrapped into one. We don't want this because waiting 6 months for a resin cockpit would have been all for naught.

[20170303_140740_zpsr552cune] 


So we cut her in two after giving her 4 baths in Future.

[20170303_142323_zpsdry200qa] 

Some minor fit issues that can be sorted later but hey you can see through it and quite well for 72nd.

Continuing on with the cockpit the seats were finished off. They have not been installed as of yet because they are awaiting wash and matte coat. But generally this is how they will look and stay.

[20170303_140709_zpswuj3lndx] 

Moving along, the front dash was painted and UV glued into position with the gunsight mounted. Some Tamiya smoke will tone down the orange radar display a little more i think. Yes i like a challenge. No you aren't going to convince me to make dials. Deal with it princess.

[20170303_141529_zpsgxve6uiw] 

So with all the necessities completed to throw in the tub, well thats what i did. A little trimming here, a scrape there. Et Voila, cest magnifique non? Quite a bit of trimming and dry fitting was neccissary to fit the cockpit but I've been told that this is due to the kits variation in this area and Obscureco thinks that you are a big boy and can fix a problem with fit because you are buying resin. Well ya other wise I wouldn't buy resin. 

[20170313_010351_zpsiypcd4lj]  [20170313_010402_zps8fozjwti] 
The small horizontal surface that you see in between the radio hump painted tan and each side of the cockpit sill is a ledge divider the purpose of I am unsure. All the details. as you can also see I took the liberty of gluing the front canopy section to the plastic. This lead to some superlative linguistics as it did not sit flush and needed a hell of alot of sanding. Which then lead to a small gap showing. This cancer was cured by Mr. Surfacer 1000. Satisfied I taped up the canopy and moved along to better things.

On the Mk.5 Canuck, the wingtip rocket pods present on the Mk.4 ( which we will be doing ), were replaced with fuel tanks as the 8x 12.7mm gun pod was still in use but the RCAF was moving forward in incorporating the Sparrow missile system into the airframe. Now that youève had your history lesson we can move along to the issue.

The issue here is that the front tip of the fuel tanks actually worked as a search light/ aircraft identifier/ landing light and was therefore clear except for the top right quarter which was done to prevent blinding the pilot. Here we can see the beginning of the scratch build to incorporate the 3 light system. STYRENE SHEET IS YOUR FRIEND. I am using .020" plasticard as most of the work fits the scale. Long was off but it is a test to see. Once the faux lights are in place, doloping and controling some micro crystal clear to actually make the lens will be done to replicate the glass. After everything is painted of course.

[20170313_011243_zpshc6gs8ew] 
As hinted above and in my opening statement, work has began on the airbrake which will be displayed in the open/ down position with all the internals showing. Once finished i will show you the only actual photo that I have been able to find which has been my only reffrence. 

[20170313_010453_zpspsv8n9i1]  [20170313_010533_zpsc9jff4iw] 
[20170313_010555_zpssstsy1uk] 

So the holes you can see were either drilled out or milled out with a grinding head. The square holes were drilled first and then filed out with a square file. In the middle of the air brake bay the little platform is a hydraulic bypass of some sort and will be replicated with very fine wire later. I had very little patience left at this point so I mocked everything up and had a gander.

[20170313_011212_zpsgww32hio]  

So here we are. Scratchbuilding will continue. This will be one of three to be completed so matching sets were made for the other two planes. I might only do another aircraft with the flaps and airbrake deployed.

Next up on the to do list is build the actuators for the board (airbrake), and then move along to joining the two halves. Work will proceed much faster after that.

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Amazing work and TLC you're putting in there, looking great.
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all the scale work you are doing blows me away. Patience is your friend!
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So little update, goddamn carpet monster thinks hes tough shite and stole the canopy for the third Canuck so looks like I'll only be finishing a MK.4 and a Mk.5.

So the fuselage halves came together finally. And so the progress of sanding and priming over and over for hours had my pecker just bursting through my jeans. No not really, sucked harder than the fat chick trying to prove her worth. 
[20170319_235642_zps68hqry5b] 
[20170323_214312_zpsljee5ywf] 
[20170323_214321_zps3kxpj5it] 

[20170321_150820_zpsjtkrcaxz] 
[20170321_142233_zps1dwxmrw9] 
Black primer went down after that and looked mighty fine, then a light dose of Model Master Silver Chrome.

[20170321_165854_zpsxcf2pgim] 

[20170322_171845_zpsswmczagb] 
Now just some minor details and work starting on the MK.4 and its differences from the MK.5.

[20170323_180402_zpszwracnor] 
next update should be the paintwork on the MK.4 and the black basing technique that I'll show you guys who may not be familiar with it.


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I look forward to anything you post regard black basing! as for the canopy gone missing, have you tried shutting off all light and using a flashlight down low to catch a shine from the canopy plastic? that is so &%$#@ frustrating!!!
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