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TedUSA

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I am sticking with the bust of Satan and I know I have seen this figure before but cannot find anything like it online. anyone have a clue?--particular name? I have googled everything I can think of.


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Great bust Ted, this pic reminded me of an old film called Legend, I'm sure there was a young Tom Cruise playing the dashing hero who rescued the princess in there somewhere.

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BINGO!

"it's Sateen, actually." - Wreck it Ralph

I mentioned the Legend reference in the other thread. I can coach you through painting the black horns with dynamic shading. Its much easier than you think. Same as weathering an airplane. Dark Grey highlights with a few select areas in a slightly lighter Grey highlight on the parts that would catch the most light.

I would recommend a little dry brushing to start.

The red can be layered. Especially with an airbrush. Once again, highlight the upper most parts that catch the most light.

Use a lamp directly over the bust and snap a picture. Use that picture as a "light map" to guide you.

That should get you started.
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The use of the lamp is a great idea Mike.

Have you ever tried that the otherway round with the torch under the chin. The kids do it on Halloween, makes one look really evil.
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Great tips GUYS! I have been building an image library for the work and I have most all of the Legend Images that are online.

Here is a link to my Picassa album of images that I have so far. IMHO, the first two images seem the closest overall--only ones with the horns anywhere close to my figure.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/108303011896844034815/albums/6069081881370948449

I found a website that sells a full body resin kit of the Legend character.

That light idea is really good! I used to do similar in photo sessions with models, lighting their face with a single light from each side-four pictures.

Step 1 is trimming/sanding the mold seams and cleaning the resin really good--then attach the horns.
Step 2 AB total flat black and PLEDGE?

when I think of figures, I think "further away DARKER, closer LIGHTER" That is how you create depth in art images pencil and painting work.

I wouldn't mind having a full body figure of "Hellboy"--love that character and Ron Perlman in so many of his roles.

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Hmm. You have two choices with this subject; either you could just paint the horns black, then block the rest in red or you can build up from the entire bust painted black.

Building up from the black and airbrushing the tones of red will probably be your best advantage since this subject had very deep and dark recesses in the movie.

You have a real serious time of absolute fun coming up Ted. [smile]
The shading and blending part is by far my favorite part if the whole process.
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I think I am going to go from the solid black and build layers on top of that as the "pre-shade"?? I am tempted to take the horns to some kind of "natural" horn color with dark washes and highlights over the color. looking at reference pics of bighorn sheep which is where the horns were modeled from--if they were smooth horns like in many of the reference pics I would probably do satin black with lots of gloss? Plenty to think about. right now I am getting all the mold lines and flash off, more than I originally thought were on the resin. Someone said that RESIN takes paint better than styrene. do you think that is true?

I "lost" all the images that were previously posted in this thread. ??? I did not delete anything prom Picassa [the image sharing program I use] and I have not moved any images either.???? I am replacing them. if the thread seems off--text does not match image continuity perfectly--sorry about that.

STEP ONE: mold line cleanup














foam backed skinny sander stick very fine + diamond dust coated "Bead Reamer" tool work very well. softly softly catchy monkey [Pete]. I found the bead reamer at a craft store where they have all the jewelry making supplies. LOADS of hobby tools to drool over. In the US this store is Michaels Arts & Crafts. similar at Hobby Lobby? you could probably get these type items from their web sites if not available locally? That reamer works great for any kind of groove. much easier to use on this figure than an xacto blade between the details of the horn growth rings.





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I think the jury is still out on that one Ted.

I think it depends more on the type of primer/undercoat that you use. I use a lot of GW Skull White or Chaos Black, but I find I get better results from use a grey car primer rattle can. It dries smooth and not so porous.

What do you think Mike, do you have a favourite undercoat and do you prefer resin, plastic or white metal ?
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strong overhead lighting serves as a guide for painting progressive dark and light areas--modulation. Nigel [?] suggested this technique---great idea.THANKS!

and after the horns have been attached:


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I haven't used auto Primer in many, many years, but it does work very well. I have been using Krylon Camp flat black and dark green recently because that what I have right now. The krylon Fusion series is good as well but I have not tried it on the white metal.

For resin, once its washed almost anything will stick to it.

Those light maps should make things a little easier on you and painting the horns as sheep horns will probably bring more life to the subject.

I think you are forming a good vision of what you want to do here Ted. That is half the battle in the beginning.

Once we all have a subject primered and ready to go I think we can officially begin.
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Thank you for the comments and info . very much appreciated!
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Ace work on the seam clean up Ted, and that is such a beautiful sculpt, does anyone else see Harrison Ford in the lower part of the face ?

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Nice work Ted this is going to be epic!!!
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Ace work on the seam clean up Ted, and that is such a beautiful sculpt, does anyone else see Harrison Ford in the lower part of the face ? Pete


yes I do, especially the straight on shot with the little right sided "smirk" that he has--usually when he is facing away from the other person before he turns around. most often, he turns around thinking that he has everything under control, that is when all hell breaks loose and he gets his head kicked in, escaping by only the most narrow margin. He plays the intelligent but vulnerable character to the hilt, so you NEVER really know for sure what is going to happen in a scene. Besides the Indiana Jones series, one of my fave movies of his is "Clear and Present Danger" from the book by Tom Clancy. I admit I like the scene where the jet drops a smart bomb on the drug lords house and completely destroys it. other best scenes--the attack in the alley by Colombian Hit squad with RPGs AND the scene near the end of the movie where Ford confronts the President--its the best. except for the final courtroom scene in "A Few Good Men" between Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson---WOW. somebody stop me!!!

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Nice work Ted this is going to be epic!!!


Neil,
thank you very much. it is a nice sculpt and the only thing that bothers me is the totally different "sides" of the sculpt--diff ear, neck, etc. BUT, that is becasue I am basically OCD. I do favor diversity and unbalanced forms in Art as well as the perfectly matched. I guess Satan would be malformed?, that is how he is theologically described in the Bible. He went from very beautiful to gross and ugly after he lost the war he initiated in Heaven and was cast out.

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