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I was able to get a gloss coat on last night.  I used Alclad aqua gloss, it is very easy to spray and produces a great finish.  I'll look at it again tonight and decide if it needs another coat before I start on the decals.  I'm very nervous about starting the decals but once I get going I should be good.  Not sure what to expect but I figure at least 3-4 nights worth of bench time for the decals alone (if they go down nicely and don't fight me) we'll see.

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Thanks for looking,

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I'm sure all will be okay and that the tiger scheme will look great. Good luck ;-)
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Fingers crossed, breath held!!
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Just caught up Tim some great work 
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So, after a bit of a vacation with the family I got myself a beverage and prepared to start on the decals.

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I thought a good way to ease in to the decals would be to start with the external fuel tanks, not too many decals, none are too large or complicated.  Placed the decals in water, waited for them to loosen from the paper and then, disaster.  They started to crack, some would crack (rip) while coming off the paper and some would crack while being applied on the model.  I applied the decals using micro sol and set as I always do but that didn't help.

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I've applied several coats of both sol and set and these decals won't settle down.  After looking at the decal sheet, they were produced in 2003 so they are old but I've never come across this issue before and I'm not sure how to continue.

After thinking about, I think I have to paint the stripes which led me to this.....

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Not sure if anyone has used this before and if you have, please let me know any tips you have.  It is a thin, semi-transparent, low tack adhesive film.  My plan is to trace the outlines, cut them out and spray.  Hopefully this works, if anyone has any other ideas please let me know.

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The age can be an issue but more importantly, the environment the kit was in before you got it and/or since you have had it. Temps and humidity of storage, etc. Frisket is a standard of airbrushing work. Have not used it before but pros do. Best wishes. Ironic that you have these problems on a tiger theme!!! You could have ordered a fresh set of decals??
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Hi Ted,

  I bought the kit and decals back in 2003-2004 from a LHS and they have been stored in good conditions so I'm not sure that was the problem.  I thought of ordering new decals but the company no longer produces them and any set I purchase online (if I could find one) would most likely be just as old.  I really don't want to have to bin this model so I'm keeping my fingers crossed on the masking film.

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Not good! Sorry for your woes but I'm sure your rescue attempt with the film will look even better than the decals and give it a much more natural finish.

Good luck bud

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nice work thus far ! [smile]

But I gotta say this caught my eye as this is one of my hobbies too ! [biggrin]
I wonder which kit this is ?
I have a few 3D aerobats including a couple from Extreme Flight, Extra 300 and Edge 540
Can you prop hang yours ?


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Oh, that's bad news. I would say "happy masking" ;-)
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Hi Paul,

  That is an E-Flite Slick 480.  It should be able to hang on the prop, however, I don't have the skills yet.  This is my first 3D plane and I plan to take it easy at first.

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Ah cool, I have a few Eflite models and generally speaking their designs are pretty good [smile]

These things are great fun to just whizz about, you do right to take it incrementally though.
Although I strongly suggest you get a cheapy flat foam shock flyer for learning 3D, prop hanging etc.
because they are less intimidating, cheaper & easier to fix and with less anxiety you will get it low to the ground quicker and build up your confidence etc. etc. [smile]

Couple of tips though (sorry if you know these things already),
use dual rates and set them to "soft & easy" and "balls out maximum deflection" with plenty of exponential to soften the centre stick movements.
For max deflections you really want a minimum 45 degrees of movement each way on all surfaces if not more, I use between 40-60% exponential for the maximum rates.

Get the CG as back as far as you dare, ideally the plane should be neutrally balanced such that it will fly straight and level "hands free" right way up and inverted, getting the CG in the super sweet spot makes prop hanging so much easier as well as elevators, knife edge etc. a decent set up makes a huge difference on these kind of planes [smile]

There are number of ways of entering a prop hang, the Schullman Snap being my favorite [biggrin]
However I suggest to begin with climb high(ish) cut the throttle completely and pull maximum elevator (max dual rates) and the plane should enter the Elevator, very easy to do and recover from, than gradually add throttle until the plane until it is pointing vertically up at which point it will probably want to roll and yaw left (if your prop is the standard counter clockwise rotating) and then it is "just" a case of balancing all four controls to keep it stable, if & when it goes wrong full throttle, push forward and most likely you'll need some right aileron to stop it rolling onto its back.

A more dramatic variation of this is to do a vertical dive with a decent amount of throttle for some naughty speed oh and then snap the throttle closed, then immediately full up elevator, then add throttle again to bring it into the prop hang.

Also practice high alpha slow passes (straight and level flight with a 45 degree angle of attack) will help a lot with prop hanging too as will knife edge flight as it gets you using the rudder properly plus it looks cool, especially high alpha knife edges, and then there is 4 point rolls, rolling circles etc. etc.

I hope that might be useful for you, sorry if I have banged on a bit but I love flying [smile]
Anyhow, here's a vid from ages ago, not my best flight but it might be of interest, lucky landing at the end though, I was over milking the battery, doh ! [biggrin]


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A little update, After doing some research online the decal manufacturer did a re-release of this decal set in 2014 and a few are available online.  I ordered a set and hopefully, when they arrive in 2-3 weeks, they will be the new ones with none of the cracking problems.

Until then, I think I need to start another kit for this GB.  I was thinking either......

1/48 Tamiya RAF Mustang III, to be built as an RACF bird

or..

1/35 Hobby Boss Leopard 2A4M CAN

we'll see....... 

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Sorry Tim, was that too much in one go ? [smile]

anyhow, an RACF Mustang sounds cool ! [smile]

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No, not too much info at all, I think we were typing at the same time.

That is some amazing flying, my skills are nowhere near that level. If all goes well this year I'll be proficient at knife edge passes. This is only my second year flying so I'm still very new to it all.

One thing I have already learner is you can never get too much info about the Hobby, or any Hobby for that matter. your tips will be helpful in me developing my skills.

And thanks for the vote on the mustang

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