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Choppa Nutta

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Seeing as I've got time on my hands I thought I might put this "simpler" idea in for a punt πŸ˜‰

The idea here is that that fore ground literally comes out of the picture and when you put your eye in the sweet spot the foreground lines up with the backdrop with a seamless blend and you have the illusion the model on the flat part of the display really is a part of the backdrop, with correct lighting of course [wink]

Anyhow, here's the concept drawing to illustrate the idea.
The sweet spot for the eye or camera will be level with the horizon and dead centre.
Then one would adjust your X position to get the perspectives to line up.
Plonk a model on to the foreground plate and it should like it is coming right out of the picture frame πŸ˜‰

Deck 3D illusion Concept.jpg 

Step 1, finding a suitable source photo as a starting point ..

Step -01.jpg 

Step 2, straighten things, sort out the colour balance a little and edit out all the railings etc.

Step -02.jpg 
Step 3 will be to remove the current background and replace it with a moody sky and sea,
something like this should work well as the ship will block out the unwanted foreground and will give it a hint of Falklands perhaps ?

lake-2349536_960_720.jpg 

Once I've done that it's onto dealing with the blended radius area where I have to deform the picture in such a way that the lines become parallel on the foreground plate, thus when you put your eye in the sweet spot the vanishing point (VP) of the foreground will line up with the VP of the background with the blended radius forming a seamless transition between the two.

Dealing with the blend is by far the most trickiest aspect of this build as I have to deform the picture along a curve section but I think I have a plan ... we shall see [wink]

after that it's make the base and print off the final image making sure the radius on the base matches up with the image.
Printing off at A3 should be about right for 1/48 and seeing as I have an old shelf queen 1/48 Sea Harrier I reckon that's the size I'll be going for πŸ˜ƒ
An A4 print should be about right for 1/72 and an A2 good for 1/32 etc.

If I knew how wide the lines were in real life I'd be able to work this out more accurately but from what I can tell the dark centre strip is about as wide as a Harrier fuselage, ish .....

Anyhow this is not an idea I've seen done before hopefully I can pull this off πŸ˜‰



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Another great concept for a diorama......  looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
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What a great concept! can't wait to see the result. I think it will be a very neat piece of engineering art.
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Another cool idea. Happy building!
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Cheers guys,
appreciating the encouragements, glad you like the idea !

most of it will be straight forward enough =, just the radius transition zone thats going to be the tricky bit ....
anyhow, can but try [biggrin]

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Step 3 sorted,
I feel the background matches the foreground reasonable well ...
Thought I would edit out the tractor too ..

Step -03.jpg 



and now for the bendy bit !! [biggrin]


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It’s perfect!
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Cheers Ted [smile]

I've since flipped the background left to right as there is a slight lighting bias from the left and the background was from the right.
A subtle thing but it helps contribute to the illusion [smile]

Step -03b.jpg 


I've tried a couple of bends so far and whilst I feel I've got the hang of what to do to get it close I need to redo it again as the central grey bit is coming out too wide when it reaches the foreground plate, as far as I can work out it needs to be a little over 50mm or 2 inches for 1/48th scale once printed to an A3 sheet.
This was the drawing I've used to derive the scale, the dark grey bit is about a quarter of one of the 10 metre "dashes" which puts it 2.5 metres ish, about 8 feet divided by 48 equals 2 inches etc. etc.  
HMS-Ark-Royal-3 view.jpg 

Of course now I've had the idea if I can find a photo looking the other way down the deck square on I could do this agian but with the ski ramp jutting out of the picture and a harrier taking off for a full on "leaping out the picture" effect [biggrin]



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Ok, let me be sure what your plan is. You will have a vertical background that contains the launch ramp and the horizon with the actual harrier on the base in front of the picture or....... will the picture of the horizon be vertical and then perhaps the launch ramp (ship deck and ramp) cut and pasted to flexible material maybe 1” in front of the picture of the horizon?? Then the plane on the horizontal base facing the launch ramp? A separation between the horizon background and the launch ramp(ship) would really make the depth β€œpop” when viewed from the right angle.
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For the moment I'm going with Plan A as illustrated above where the background and foreground are printed onto one sheet that will be bent round the corner radius.

Having the ski jump sticking out the picture is an idea I do like though but I need a picture looking the other way to do it [smile]

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Paul, what you have going is great. I was just curious about the actual overall idea. Press forward sir! Thanks
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Cheers and no worries Ted [smile]

I like this example of perspective twisting

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I had a go at this sort of illusion a while back, tricky stuff,
got a wonky wing on my Tie Fighter etc. but was fun to try [smile]

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Anyhow back to the Ark ......

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Your process here is fascinating. In the past I did quite a bit of graphic (pencil) art that involved perspective, etc.
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Just to keep the juices flowing [biggrin]






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That video is a great compilation! Thanks for posting.
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