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M.Brindos

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I noticed an entire wall of Reaper figs at the game shop today. OMG they have a lot of really good looking figs!!

Also found the Citadel paint rack and they have them all! Including the technical paints. Vallejo model air, game air, and many, many other paints as well. Including all the turf supplies.

I need a thousand bucks! Lol!!! I really was not paying attention before. I've got almost everything I could ask for there as far as painting goes.

Beach?! No idea what you're talking about. [wink]. Lol
That's just what I see Kenny. I am in no way trying to sway you. That wouldn't be what I want to do with the workshop and not the goal of the GB.
Its simply the vision in MY head. Change it for me. [smile]
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Kenny

If you are wanting to make cobble paving, here is a technique to consider:-

You will need:-
Foam board or plasticard
Das modelling clay
PVA Adhesive
Square or rectangular plastic section(Evergreen type stuff)

Start by filing a bevel on the end of the box section, this is the tool that forms the cobble impression.
Next, paint a small part of the card with PVA. Take a small amount of clay and press it in to the card on top of the PVA until it is the desired thickness, 2-3 mill will suffice. It doesn't have to be perfectly flat, this will add to the effect.
Now, using the tool you made earlier, press it in to the clay repeatedly to form rows of cobbles. Again, being ultra neat is not required, real cobbles are all over the place.
Once complete, let it dty and then work your magic with the paints.

Alternatively, you could do a beach :-)

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Nice find there mike. Always fun to find that you have access to something you didn't realize you could get locally. Though the wallet usually doesn't appreciate that as much.

Thanks for the information chris. might have to pick up some materials to give that a try. Though now mike has me kinda pondering the beach idea. Could get some scenery sand from the local hobby store, and then scratch build a small treasure chest. Doubt I would find one the size that I would need for this. Cover the base in sand and have the little chest next to her right foot on the base. I could see that looking pretty neat, just like a cobblestone street could look neat too. Why must decisions be so hard. lol

Reaper does have some really nice looking figures. Some are better than others, but the ones that I've received so far have been really good. Tempted to order another one, but I think 4 figures ordered is good enough till I finish a few of them. Though this sure could be a fun one to paint.

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The more I think about it, the more I think I'm going to go with the beach and treasure chest idea. I even just found a treasure chest that was small enough that I liked, so I ordered it. Will have a few extra because it was $8 for a set of 10 of them. Might not get them till next week though. Think if I can finish the rest of the figure I can find time to finish the base next week, even if I'm having to get my house ready for company, and pack for a trip to florida. Added benefit of using sand is I could probably get away with leaving the current base in place. Just glue her onto the base I bought, and then pile up the sand over it.

Think I'll save the cobblestone idea for the crusader figure that hasn't shown up yet. Would probably fit with him better anyways. Not sure what I want to do with the other figure though. As of right now I kinda want to do something different for each base. Saw some cool ones of her standing on rocks, or I could pick up some more scenery materials and make it look like she's on a grass field or something. Going to have to think on that one. Got plenty of time since I don't now how much I'm going to get done on her before I have my little over a week break from the bench.

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Got a little bit of bench time this morning since nothing came in for work for a while this morning. Think I'm happy with how the white ruffles look now. Also started shading the blue. Mainly did it as a wash, but was concentrating on the creases and folds while avoiding the flatter areas. Just have to work on the highlights and the blue should be done. Also started work on the sword. Have a lighter shade of silver on the top and a darker shade on the bottom. My attempt at simulating the light hitting the sword. Think I have a lighter shade yet that I'm going to put on the edges.


Now that I have everything blocked in, it's just shading and highlighting everything to help give it more life.

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Dang that beach idea. I want you to do what you want to do. Not what I thought about doing. [smacks forehead]

Nigel's tip to me for highlighting silver was to edge with white. It works perfectly and looks great.

Now if I find this figure I'm going to have to put her on a wooden ship's deck. !!! [tongue]

I am sorry for getting that image stuck in your head.
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That's alright. Hard to pass up good ideas. Also doing cobblestones for a 90mm figure instead of a 28mm figure should turn out to be much easier (they dont have to be as small lol). Making a different base for each figure should give me a chance to practice working with different materials, and getting different effects. Which should be a good thing.

Think I'll give that a try. Probably doesn't need much white, just a little on the pointy bits lol.

If you want to paint her yourself then here's the product page on reaper's website http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/lonnia/latest/02981. Maybe you could put her on a wooden ship deck next to a cannon. Like she's the captain and she's ordering the crew to fire. [biggrin]

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Okay, yeah. Idea swap works for me. [biggrin]
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I figured it was fair [wink]. Could even have a pile of cannon balls next to the cannon and a powder barrel.
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Think it's starting to get real close to done. Had to walk away with it, because I already had to correct a few mistakes from my fiddling. Have a few little details that I have to touch up, and I might add a little more contrast to the shading of the skin. Basically went with a 3 to 1 mixture of 3 being the base color, and 1 being the shade color. made it darker, and it looked like it had more contrast while it was still wet, but it seems to have dried a little lighter. Did pretty much the same for the highlight as well. The detail catches the light rather well on it's own so it doesn't really need much I don't think. Think the hair turned out rather well, as well as the shirt and sash.



A good angle [rofl]

From that last angle the shading on the skin looks perfect to me. Light kinda washes out some of the shading and highlighting from the other angles. Once I have the base and the sand I'll probably do a little dry brushing on the bottom part of the boots with a light brown or something that matches the sand I get. That way it looks like she's been walking in the sand.

She certainly has come a long way from where I started. If anyone has any suggestions on what I could do to make her look better I'm all ears. Pretty much at the point where the only things I can think of are touching up, and increasing the shading or highlighting in a few areas. I wouldn't be surprised if I've spent more time working on her than a lot of the people that buy this figure.

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Yes you have definitely got the hang of it Kenny. You just keep going around the figure over, and over till you have that moment when you step back and think, "That's done it! I'm happy with that. [biggrin] " and then you're looking for the next effect you want to try out lol. Have we warned you about how addictive it might get? Wait till you start on the bigger figs! Muwahahaha!

Only suggestion I have is that you could be more assertive with the highlights. But not the fleshy parts. You're looking really good there and you can bring that same level of shading to the rest of the model. You can see what I'm talking about right in front of you. You even said so. "From that last angle the shading on the skin looks perfect to me." That's what you're looking for and that's really close to happening. Just keep looking at the fig and it will tell you where it needs what it needs. It sounds stupid, but let the sculptor show you where the paint goes. He's already thought it out for you so your job is easier.

Well, one way to consider it anyways.

Cannon balls sound really good Kenny! Keep sharing that picture (the one your painting in my head)! [biggrin]
I can already see the dead cannon crew laying at her feet with smoke, wind, and cannon balls piled up next to her. Ready to face her next opponent as the battle rages on around her. This is great lol!
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Thanks mike. Yeah I'm afraid of what might happen to me when I start on the bigger figs. LOL. I'm already having trouble not ordering more figures as it is. Really can't wait for the 90mm fig to show up, but that's a ways out yet. It has a little ways to go to get here. I have tracking for it, but usps has no info for it till it actually reaches the US. Think I've noticed the addictiveness manifest some with pete. He's like a figure painting machine.

I probably do need to work on the highlights some more in areas. Especially the boots and pants as well as the sheaths. Now that I think about I've done almost nothing to the sheaths after I painted them. I did a little with the silver at the ends, but that's it. Also the strap that attaches them to her belt I haven't really touched either. Was focused on the front, and neglected the back (though the front is kinda nice to look at now ROFL). I think I'm happy with where the hair is too. Could possibly make the shading a little darker, but I don't want to go overboard with it. It seems to be pretty tough finding that sweet spot between too much and not enough. The sword I think is probably about as good as I can get without starting over on it. Didn't like the contrast I was getting between dark and light, so I mixed some black into the darker shade to get a little more contrast. So the light on the top and the dark on the bottom are actually more the different shades of silver, and not just the light shining off of it. I tried to paint some white on the edges, but I made a mess of it so I ended up having to start over (so it would be starting over again for the 2nd or 3rd time). Ended up mixing some white with the lighter silver and dry brushed it on the edges. Not really noticable, but you can sort of see it in person. For the ruffles in the sleeves I've been debating with myself if I want to redo them. Was thinking of putting a darker wash on them. Letting it dry, then putting the sepia wash on again, then dry brushing some white over that. Making it look a little grungier. Though it already looks pretty dirty now.

Getting late so I won't be able to do any more tonight, but I think I'll stare at her a bit tomorrow. See what I can come up with. I did have to walk away from her earlier though. Was going over the same thing over and over, and not really making anything different. Just piling more paint on. Work is going to take me past the local hobby lobby tomorrow, so I'll stop in there to pick up the sand and stuff for the base (wood deck and cannon idea are for you if you get this figure mike [wink]). Will also take a look at their selection of model color paints. Maybe looking at some more paint options than what I currently have might spark some inspiration as well. I am liking painting a fantasy figure a lot more than painting military figures. More freedom for artistic license as well as a larger available color pallet. Speaking of which I should probably pick up another pallet while I'm there. Have had to clean the small one I have several times already with all the mixes I've been making for this figure. Next figure is probably going to be pretty bad for making a lot of different mixes as well, so having a second pallet should be helpful.

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I'm proud of you Kenny. Very, very proud of what you have done already.  [biggrin]  I just need to push you a little further and you'll have all the confidence you'll need  [smile] . You are well on your way to painting exactly the way you envision how it should look in your head. This is just the beginning of your journey and I'm happy to be part of it with you mate. [biggrin]

I have two pallets for acrylics and I need another two for oils. I've been using tiny recycled plastic snap lidded bowls that come in pre-made salads from the store. Only trouble is they don't have flat bottoms. But I've been mixing oil washes and they save very well and reanimate with a few drops of thinner. But yeah, anyways lol. Get a few more Kenny. They always come in handy no matter the subject. The freedom to mix up a quick highlight while you're painting a cockpit will be something you'll love being able to do with confidence.

Eventually you'll be eyeballing colors you don't have and mixing them up on the fly for something you just quickly thought of. My Corsair is an example of that. I didn't have those colors in bottles till I mixed them myself. The dark sea blue is acrylic and the medium sea blue is enamel. Even the light greys I shaded the bottom of plane with are my own mix of acrylics.

I think I'm trying to say that you are learning more in this GB than just painting a figure all pretty. You're learning new ways of thinking about how you paint. That's the core of what this whole thing is about. What you learn here while painting figures is new techniques that will lend themselves to so much more than figures. They will change the way you think about how things are done and your style will blossom. You will grow as a modeller. Already the things you've learned about painting planes, cars, armor, and whatnot have been available to you to use here. Its showing through your work. The way you have been so subtle with your shading as you would in a cockpit. Realistically and not in a fantasy like way and this figure is starting to hold some realistic qualities through your current style. For me this is exciting to watch. Because you haven't come out of your comfort zone just quite yet and I'm waiting for you to take that step mate.  And you will know it when it happens Kenny.  You won't be looking for it. It will just find you and it'll be like lightening just struck. That proverbial "ah! That's it! ...It was that easy??!" moment lol. Because this is quite easy actually once you see it. Its all under your fantastic control and the visions become reality, and then you're just wondering what cool thing you want to paint next in a slightly different way, or try a new trick you saw someone else do.  [biggrin]

Man am I waxing poetic here. Sappy altruistic goofball that I am. Sorry Kenny, I do tend to go into my own little world.

Its fantastic, it really is. Any questions at all you just ask me. If you've got an idea and can't puzzle it out? we'll be here for you. Carry on good sir!  [smile]
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Thanks mike. It must be all the gritty realistic fantasy movies that have been coming out lately, but it's kinda hard to not think of a fantasy figure at least being somewhat realistic. That's most likely why even with a fantasy figure I've been attempting to keep it looking realistic. Though now that I think about it all those movies tend to have their costumes much dirtier than I've made this figure. So maybe it's more I'm stuck between the brighter fantasy movies I saw when I was younger, and the dark dirtier ones that are out now.

After sleeping on it (again not sleeping on the figure lol), I think when I get home from work I'm going to play around with the highlights a little more. So far most of them I've just been dry brushing on. The 10/0 brush that I have apparently wasn't that good, and isn't holding it's shape as well as I would like. So getting fine lines is proving a little more difficult than I would like. Should be no problem after my new brushes get here, but I'd rather keep working on this than wait for the new brushes to show up. I think I'm going to try to mix in another lighter shade into some of my highlights that will go on top of the highlighting that I've already done. Going to attempt to paint along folds and stuff to get a little more range between the dark and the light while hopefully keeping it from being over the top.

I'll probably pick up a couple more pallets today. Think the one I got was only a dollar when I got it, so it's not like I'll be spending a lot of money on them. lol. I also already kinda see some of these techniques sneaking into other builds. Or at least when I'm making plans for parts of my b-25 I'm thinking of it like a figure. Like the piece that goes on the tip of the tail is supposed to be cloth. Before I probably would have just painted it and put a wash on it with the rest of the plan, but now I'm looking at that one piece like I would a figure. I'm planning to do some shading some highlighting and all kinds of stuff to it. I might need to stop procrastinating on that build so I can start painting that as well. Been so wrapped up in figures lately, that I haven't even finished the rescribing on it yet. Maybe I'll pull out some of the figures for that build and paint them, so at least it feels like I'm doing something for that build.

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Reply with quote  #75 
At this scale it's okay to go a little overboard and highlight those little folds you're talking about. Over accentuating the details and using brighter colors is common on 28mm figs. I think of them as just under 1/48 scale which is why I paint 1/48 figs with a bit of that in mind. But where do I draw the line, you might be thinking? When you get there it will be very obvious to you. The detail will pop and catch your eyes just where you want them to. If your highlights get out of control, no need to re-paint. Use a filter of your base color or a wash of a darker shade of the base color and tone it down without loosing your shading. I had that problem with my 1/35 German TC. His all black uniform was a pain! I had to over compensate with the shading by going lighter than I wanted to and Nigel suggested a black filter over the shading and it all came back into the color I was looking for without losing my shading. So don't be afraid. you won't ruin the fig. The only thing that ruins a good fig is not trying.

And that rudder is a perfect example of how figure painting changes how you think about painting in general.  [biggrin]
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