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HockeyDoc

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Chris
You have given me some new ideas as I work through those intakes. They are looking very clean.
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Thanks for all the comments guys.  Done a bit more tonight, another couple of coats of surfacer on the intakes, airbrushed the engine bits black as a primer for the metallic and also painted the tub.
The latter looks a bit patchy, I used XF54 with home brew thinners and suspect that paint and thinners were separating after time in the cup.  Has anyone else experienced this?

Anyway, here are some more pics:-

The patchy tub



Dry fit of all the big bits




Here is the black I laid down for the metal coat primer.  It is lifecolour thinned 50:50 with home brew and I am really pleased with the way it covered and levelled.  I am new to airbrushing but my confidence is building, aided enormously by Bob's videos.



Finally managed to get a photo down the intake.  Dry fit only at the minute hence the gaps but I think I am nearly there with the filling and smoothing debacle.



That's it for now.  Thanks for looking in.

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Chris,

great progress and nice pictures for the WIP thread.

I use a lot of Tamiya Paint and I have used the home brew thinner from the beginning. I put the thinner in the AB paint cup and then the paint. then I mix the H^%$# out of it with a cheapo small nylon paint brush--they don't shed hairs [very rarely] and give you good force to mix with. since most all of the homebrew thinner is water and acrylics are water based, no separation should occur if the two components are mixed properly? there is always a possibility that the paint might be old or spoiled by exposure to extreme temps before or after you got it? there are several other factors that affect the quality of the AB use. paint/thinner ratio? I think Bob starts with a 50/50 mix most of the time? another factor is the compressor setting? if it is too high your coats of paint will be too thick and cause finish problems. and one more that comes to mind for myself: the AB is too far from the piece being painted. the paint will actually almost be completely dry as it reaches the model parts. this will cause your finish to be rough to the touch, maybe like a very fine sandpaper feel. it can also be chalky to the touch? so, 50/50 mix, good stir in the cup, compressor set from 12PSI-20PSI [just guessing], AB not too far from the workpiece. first coat is very light, barely visible. let it dry a short while, then apply remaining coats carefully. One of my problems was that I spent years using rattle cans on multimedia art and you use it full blast, intentional further distance for "effect". I have to remember that the AB is a "mini-tool" and I need to use it as such. slowly and carefully, building the paint coat a bit at a time.

BTW--I thought the tub looked OK in the picture. I assumed the little darker areas were shadows of something between the tub and the light/camera ? besides, very little of the tub will be seen once everything is piled in and you do the other paint, washes, canopy closed vs open??

EDIT: I forgot to mention mixing the paint in the pot before ever putting it in the paint cup.

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Chris the intakes are looking great.
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Hi Chris..those intakes are the best I have seen on here..well done.

I have put on my thread the answer to your exhaust paint scheme questions as best I can remember it...


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The intakes are super smooooooth Chris , excellent job ! As for the cockpit tub, if you hadn't of pointed it out, I would have thought that it was intentional shading.


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Thanks for all your comments and advice. I decided to put another coat on the tub and the inside of the fuselage, this time slightly thicker which gave me a very even finish. I will post up a pic tomorrow.

Thanks also for the comments on the intakes. I am going to paint the insides tomorrow with some white enamel, I will apply with a brush on the two separate halves so should get a good smooth coat. I then plan to glue up, stick in some Mr S if I need it then coat again to finish off.

Started the simplest bits of PE for the cockpit, bending tools should arrive Monday so will crack on with the bendy bits then.

Cheers for now.

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Chris--excellent progress on everything. enjoying your WIP thread.
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Hi folks.

PE bending tools and various other exciting bits arrived today so had a couple of hours at the bench this evening.  Here are a couple of pics:-

PE fitted around cockpit, I am planning an open canopy, might regret that!


Re-sprayed tub with a couple of bits of PE attached


Another tub shot



Rear console fitted


Different angle, took ages to get my phone to focus.  Took about 20 shots to get 2 or 3 reasonable ones!


So there are the pics so far. 

Only a slightly separate note, what is the best practice for painting the PE?  I have used etching primer on larger brass models but am a little concerned that it will kill the fine detail using a rattle can.  I don't really want to put the stuff through my AB, it eats in to the metal surface which I don't think would be a good thing for a delicate AB.

I'd be really interested to hear views.

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Chris great work on the rear console. Didn't you just love that little switch part to the right lower section of the console!!!!

Little tip when you come to fit the front console which I assume is PE, you have to check the fit on where the instructions want you to attach it at the bottoms and sides. I had to bend mine slightly....you will see what I mean when you get there.

On the painting side of things, I just painted straight onto the PE black or grey as appropriate. Then add the colored parts of PE on top. I found that I lost a little,paint to rubbing so the brass colour showed through but that was easily touched up,with a brush and weathering....that way there was no loss of detail.

Have fun...

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so far all the primer I use is the Vallego Grey Surface Primer-74.601 [the primer Bob talks about so much]. seems to work OK on everything? I had a LOAD of PE and RESIN on my tank build. I even forgot to wash the PE/RESIN before paint and everything was OK.
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Hi All

I can't believe it's been over a month since I posted anything!  Still slowly sorting my health out but good progress is being made.  Progress also being made on the Phantom, here are a few more pics:-

Cockpit with all PE complete


Cockpit weathered with Mig Neutral wash



Start of fuselage closure



All closed up, wonder what holes I have forgotten to drill





As you can see, I have added the undercarriage, thought this would be ok with everything being white underneath.  I guess time will tell.

Also been doing lots of work on the seats but struggling to get a good picture.  I will keep trying and post them up when successful.

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Cockpit looks fantastic !

Making great progress now. What scheme have you chosen for this one ?

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Hi folks, another update.  First go at pre-shading, had load of problems with paint drying on my needle, sorted it in the end, had the air pressure too high.  Managed to get top coats and clear on and am quite happy with the result.  Here are some Pics:-







Am I right in thinking that I apply the decals then the pin wash and then the matt coat?

Cheers for now.

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Looks great Chris !

Thin paint and low pressure is the trick for fine lines, and don't be scared to get in really close.

It might be a good idea to seal the decals with a clear coat before the wash, or there is a risk of it getting under the decals, but you need to keep everything in light coats or you can end up filling the panel lines and the wash won't take

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