Monogram 1:48 F-4C (completed photos in reveal forum)

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Jason Gaspard

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Posted 1404869369 · Edited	Reply with quote #1

I was hoping the Phantom would win the popular vote since I had one in the stash. Looking at the quality and details at dry fit I'm thinking of going for an unorthodox build, I don't want to spend the $$ on the aftermarket, so I'm going to use what I do have to my advantage. I will be making this into a plane in storage at AMARG in Tucson, AZ similar to: So, lots of scratch building and my first attempt at a diorama… __________________ -Jason
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kennymc0

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Posted 1404875037	Reply with quote #2

That's an interesting idea. Should make for a cool diorama. Believe I actually drove past there before. Close to the air and space museum in tucson if I remember right. A lot of planes out there. Kenny __________________ -Kenny Current Builds: 1/48 Revell B-25J Mitchell My Figures 1/48 Tamiya P-47M Thunderbolt
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TedUSA

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Posted 1404878549	Reply with quote #3

that IS a great concept! I thought of the same thing when I had bad fit problems with the 1/48 Academy Mig, my first jet. I had bought two of the kits on sale and now the 2nd one is pretty much doomed. I'll have to consider a crash or storage diorama later?? __________________ Ted pinterest pg. of scale models/dioramas: http://www.pinterest.com/intrstinpintrst/awesome-scale-models/
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srp71

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Posted 1404926550	Reply with quote #4

Looking forward to watching you work. have fun with it. __________________ Best Wishes. Simon.(srp71)
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Brundledonk

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Posted 1404928051	Reply with quote #5

Very original idea for a diorama, will look really cool too ! Pete
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Jason Gaspard

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Posted 1405130904	Reply with quote #6

Not much done yet, just trying techniques to build out the inside, removed the arresting hook (my world, long ago salvaged for another aircraft, the purpose of the boneyard after all, and this one will be picked pretty clean) And opened up a panel, experimenting with what to put behind it, you can't tell from this angle but I thinned down the side also, otherwise the fuselage would be WAY too thick looking (3 scale inches). more components of the diorama coming, will post up pics then __________________ -Jason
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eduardo

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Posted 1405162040	Reply with quote #7

Very nice idea, looking fwd this one
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TedUSA

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Posted 1405256753	Reply with quote #8

cannot imagine the final result but should be really interesting. In my research links I saw a few pictures of stowed phantoms. lots of them just sitting around. __________________ Ted pinterest pg. of scale models/dioramas: http://www.pinterest.com/intrstinpintrst/awesome-scale-models/
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Jason Gaspard

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Posted 1405317346	Reply with quote #9

The man in brown brought the last pieces of my project (not counting the base). I wanted to show crew retrieving an item from the plane so I needed guys and a truck in the right scale, these were the only things that looked like they belonged on base, even though I don't think AMARG uses humvees for the (civilian) maintenance crews and the men are German and only know how to work on 70 year old tanks There are literally hundreds of phantoms at the facility, several are being converted to drones, those that aren't are being picked clean to get younger/better maintained airframes back in the sky (unless they are on hold for display or sale). Looking at some cutaways I decided on this panel to open up also because it is 1) easy to get to and an accessable spot for my crew and 2) the approximate location of the engine accessory gearbox, a reasonable sounding piece of kit to be going after, the rear panel is about where the exhaust nozzle actuator would be accessed. Placing wires behind this opening made them look WAY too deep, so out came the Dremel and thinned the fuselage wall down considerably, you can now see light coming thru the plastic, unsure if I will open up the intake...: Rigged up some strips to keep the wires in place And experimented with different gauges, this is beading wire from the Hobby mega store, about $2 per spool, I got several not knowing what I would use. Although the compressor stage of the Phantom's engine (if it were still installed) would be here I don't have the first clue of where to start to scratch build it, so a panel will go there to keep you from seeing an empty hole, I will paint this the interior color before gluing it in place Then played around with the wire arrangement, I will superglue these in place once I'm happy. Next step was to rebuild the panels, these will be put back in place, sprayed and used in the diorama also. Some minor sanding needed but I got them pretty close There was a large hole here that would have taken weeks to fill with putty so I threw some old sprue into the last bit of Tamiya extra thin in this bottle and applied the resulting goop. Hopefully this will dry without shrinking. The tab is help locate the bulkhead once the time comes to button her up. Finished the night by experimenting with duplicating the Spraylat (that white stuff painted all over everything to protect from the sun), tinting latex with white paint gives me the look but brushing it on does not give the right texture, it really needs to be sprayed but I have not gotten the courage to try to put this crap thru one of my airbrushes lol __________________ -Jason
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Jason Gaspard

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Posted 1405384392	Reply with quote #10

looking at more reference photos I have declared my experiments last night a failure, I have removed the detail and tried my hand at making something more realistic Here it is installed, checking for fit, the wash is still wet and the flash completely distorts the color, but here is an idea __________________ -Jason
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Brundledonk

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Posted 1405430977	Reply with quote #11

That's some nice detail work going on already, this is going to be a really great project, I'm loving the humvee and figures ! A bit of converting on them and some American accents and no one will be any the wiser lol ! Again really nice work mate Pete
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Jason Gaspard

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Posted 1405459196	Reply with quote #12

Buttoned up the plane today, filler is drying, I will post pix once sanded, went together much better than I had expected. Thinking forward to the diorama, I want to display it gear removed so I need to replicate the wooden trestles that are built "graveside" when they reclaim the gear, they are basically 5' tall sawhorses, last night I played around with craft sticks for a "proof of concept" don't laugh…this one was just to figure out a height. I went and got a miter box for my razor saw today and mocked up some better built ones: Here is one with the standing pilot from the kit for scale these will do nicely once painted and weathered: now to play around with weathering the wood, since these are built as they are needed they will be different ages unless all the gear was removed around the same time... While I had the craft sticks out I made a shipping pallet (to scale of course): till next time... __________________ -Jason
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nigel56

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Posted 1405459866	Reply with quote #13

Very impressive idea. I look forward to seeing the end result, but not before I digest some of your tips and ideas.
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RossiM1

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Posted 1405468501	Reply with quote #14

Some great detail going on here it will be interesting seeing this develop, re the textured paint, I use a method on car seats and dashboards, where I spray the item with acrylic varnish or even very diluted pva glue, then dust over talcum powder, the powder adheres to the wet surface then I simply tap off the excess, then simply paint with desired colour, its similar to using flocking powder but cheaper and the fine grains of the talcum will be more in scale, this also works for replicating non-slip surfaces such as walk ways etc. Best wishes Gary __________________ RossiM1
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Brundledonk

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Posted 1405496947	Reply with quote #15

Great work on the scale carpentry, very realistic ! I love where you are going with this diorama Pete
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