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blackasdf

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Hello and sorry if this might be considered a double post, i'm struggling with painting the F16 1/48 "big mouth". I've tried more than a couple of times by pouring white acryl gloss varnish inside the intake for a couple of minutes, but the result it's not perfect. Some minor paint build-ups are ruining the perfect flat surface i'd like to achieve. (the piece is already glued and completely smooth and seamless thanks to the quick build video from genessis model)

I've tried it thinned and unthinned but still having the same result, i've also searched the internet for answers but most forums are from american modelers that have access to a latex based primer called Kilz 2. There's no such thing here in italy unfortunately...

How do you do it? airbrush it in such a narrow place seems hard but i might try it.

Any advice is really appreciated, thank you very much.
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Is the intake off the plane? Open on both ends? Once i have the intake smooth, i tape it at the top of a container. Then i take mr hobby mr surfacer 1000 and glob it all inside of the intake.it will drain down by gravity and be very smooth.let that dry very thoroughly,then you can do the same with your paint. Or you could go directly to the paint. Having the intake vertical and open allows the liquids to flow downward and stay smooth. I have also AB the paint in.light coats and build up slowly. Let each coat dry before the next.if the intake is attached to the fuselage, go directly to AB the intakes. Hope this helps?

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Hey Ted, thanks for your answer. Yes the intake is off the plane and smooth and seamless. I'm going to pour mr. surfacer right now and leave it to dry until tomorrow, i'll let you know! Thanks for the advice!
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Hey Ted, thanks for your answer. Yes the intake is off the plane and smooth and seamless. I'm going to pour mr. surfacer right now and leave it to dry until tomorrow, i'll let you know! Thanks for the advice!


you are determined to get it done and you will, I have no doubt. I forgot to mention that I had a few spots in the Mr Surfacer after it dried. I poured in some IPA [isopropol alcohol] and it smooths the Mr Surfacer. The IPA I use is 92%. The pharmacy sells it here. I think the regular 70% would also work though. I did use my AB to paint the last intakes I did. I just used several very thin coats at every angle I could manage to get good coverage.
Note. I saw a comment by Bob where he talked about taping the bottom of an intake up and pouring in paint. He waited a while, then punched a small hole in the center of the tape to let the paint drain out into a container. He finally removed the tape when most all the paint had drizzled out. This let the accumulated paint near the bottom of the intake flow out. If it won't come out evenly then it got too dry and thick before the tape was removed. I think you can also smooth paint applications by flowing IPA over them carefully. I have had small parts that I brush painted and the finish was a bit rough. I would dip them quickly in a container of IPA and then hold them vertical as the IPA flowed off. A q-tip will "suction" that last drop that clings to a part when you touch the drop with the cotton.

one other note: I don't think it was Bob [?] but I seem to remember a modeler who stretched a small balloon over the end of the intake to hold the paint in.

god I am long winded!---sorry--take what works for you and leave the rest!

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blackasdf

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Hey! So i'm at work now but i've checked the intake this morning and mr surfacer dried out very nice and smooth. Your suggestion of using Alcohol is great, i never thought about it, thanks!

I've made some testing with the AB on the intake before scratching all the paint and ask here for help, the first few inches of the intake were awesome but deep down the paint started to look "grainy" and almost separated, i think my spraying angle wasn't that good.

I'm gonna pour the paint tonight and let it dry, i will give you update in a month cause i'm leaving for a well deserved vacation 'til Sep. 1st.

Thanks again for all the help, Ted, really appreciated!






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TedUSA

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Originally Posted by blackasdf
Hey! So i'm at work now but i've checked the intake this morning and mr surfacer dried out very nice and smooth. Your suggestion of using Alcohol is great, i never thought about it, thanks!

I've made some testing with the AB on the intake before scratching all the paint and ask here for help, the first few inches of the intake were awesome but deep down the paint started to look "grainy" and almost separated, i think my spraying angle wasn't that good.

I'm gonna pour the paint tonight and let it dry, i will give you update in a month cause i'm leaving for a well deserved vacation 'til Sep. 1st.

Thanks again for all the help, Ted, really appreciated!

sounds good! if the paint was rough in part of the intake it could be one of two things, or both of them together. too much thinner and the paint drys before it hits the model--leaves the finish rough and chalky. Another cause of that can be that you got too far from the intake [in an attempt to get a steeper angle maybe?] and the distance allowed the paint to once again get too dry before it hit the surface. same roughness can result. Early on i was using a lot of thinner and too much distance. My paint finishes on my F-16 and the Mig29 are both rough. I could sand stuff with them!!

good luck with the intakes but most of all, have a safe, enjoyable holiday!!







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blackasdf

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Hello Ted! I'v been busy completing the f16, the intake came out gorgeous thanks to your advices.

This is the second model i've ever made and i'm still learning a lot, there are some mistakes here and there but i'm quite happy with the result so i'm gonna show you some pics!

Moving on to the next project, a mig 21MF bunny fighter club from Eduard, gonna be fun and challenging as i will have to figure out how to work with photo-etc and resin!

Thanks again for the help! Here is the viper





 

 

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unang43

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Second model you've ever made?!!? Seriously???? Very nice work! Why isn't it up in the Final Reveal Section of the forum? Looking forward to the third build! Well done.
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blackasdf

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Thank you very much! I bought some plastic sheets and hasegawa ground crew set A, i'm gonna try to build a simple diorama to display the f16... I think it's gonna be fun! Thanks again for the kind words!
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petermodel

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"Holycrap Batman" very nice indeed. I would be chuffed with that build.

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sabu

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gotta also say holy crap this looks amazing.  Everything about this is amazing, but the two tone exhaust stands out the most to me - it looks exactly like the real thing!
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