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TedUSA

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OK. all of that makes sense according to standard painting, drawing, etc. further away darker, closer lighter or using overhead light to establish shadows and highlights. I have a lot [relatively] of FLESH colors in Vallego [acrylics], Testor [enamel], and one in Model Master [which is virtually the same as Testor]. I will have to choose colors from my stock which will relate to some degree with what you use? Is there any significant problem with mixing oils and acrylics besides the obvious difference in drying times? Thanks
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Thanks for the question Ted.

I take it that when you say mixing Acrylics with Oils you are refering to something on the lines of Base coat in Acrylics, and then shade with oils, and not mixed together in a pot as a medium.

There is absolutely no problem in doing that, although I would suggest you seal the Acrylic with a coat of varnish before applying the oils.
Treat it like you would on a model of a Tank, or Plane, to weather it up. A lot of figure painter usually do all the skin tones in oils due to the fact that it takes so long to dry and you are basically mixing and blending on the model, rather than on a palette.
The style of painting I do I can compensate for the quick drying of Acrylics by using a small amount of Retarder, and using a wet palette.

The example I've chosen is rather basic, but gives a good result. I didn't want to frighten too many members by going into the addition of yellows and reds to further highlight areas like the cheeks and forehead etc... What I will do, later on, is add a 5 o'clock shadow to the figure which will aid in the diorama storyline.

Oils is a very good medium to work with....the medium that keeps on giving!

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Can I just say that if anyone has a question or a tip, or even a different way to do something...then please don't hesitate to put your input on this thread.
Share the wealth of knowledge. .....

Moving along, fairly fast now, and I have laid down the base coats for the uniform and given it a very sharp highlight (which I intend to tone down with shades, washes and weathering).
Main colours used are all Game Color, Terracotta for the leather top, Khaki and Earth Brown for the Overalls.



Let this dry ready for the washes & grime, whilst I have a cuppa tea and lunch and do the washing up.

Just realised I'm so involved in this that I forgot all about my Hospital Appointment and I'm probably in deep s#@t with the nurses.

May I take this opportunity to remind those in Ireland that the IPMS Model Show is nearly here, I shall be attending just after midday on Saturday...easy enough to recognise...the Gaunt looking OAP with his shopping bags taking photos (sorry no red rose).




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Thank you Nigel. Yes, oil over acrylics. makes sense to lay down the varnish to protect the work. I have seen oil colors blended on a figure/model and it is cool. I actually remember Bob dotting a tank turret with various oil colors then blending them together for the effect he wanted. I have a set of artists oils and the appropriate thinner. I also have a bottle of retarder and have been using it to keep my paints from drying too quickly. Appreciate the instruction you are providing here. Really helps! I have several sets of figures I bought quite a while back for an armor project but I've always been chicken to tackle them. Feeling a bit more comfortable as this series you are doing moves along. Thanks again

BTW---you can always butter the nurses up with a small box of chocolates or doughnuts, virtually anything makes them happy when it is free and unexpected. I used to take doughnuts to my TAX office [all ladies]. I got the best tax returns those years [when I had to pay taxes].
Cheers.

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Nigel, if you have the chance, could you review this video and see what you think of this guys "wet palette? I have all the components at home already [including that Parchment Paper]


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Ted, I know Atom...yes he knows what he's talking about.
My problem was getting the parchment paper, but my sister came to the rescue and bought me an Atelier Interactive Keep-Wet Palette, with enough refills to last me a year.


It's quite large and is approx 13" × 8".
I've tested this and the paint has stayed wet for 2 weeks.

Well worth making one, as you already have the items needed, just keep it covered and in a cool place.

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Thank you for taking a look! I will be checking the manufactured units also. I can see the benefit becasue I had a problem with my paints drying out when I put them in an art palette [the kind with multiple "shallow round pots"]. I was adding more and more retarder [flow improver] during a single session. I tried covering the "pots" with layers of tape. Some of the paint survive while other samples were bone dry the next day.
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I actually found a Mastersons Sta-Wet Palette at a local "Michaels arts and crafts" store [located in US]. It is small, 8.5X7.0X1.0 inches [still clinging to non metric--sorry]. Includes the box, sponge and 5 sheets of the paper. Its $16.99US. I could get larger trays online but....shipping is expensive, I want to go forward with the figures in my SIG build, and the smaller size fits my workbench best for now. Think I will give it a try as it would really help save paint and hang on to paint mixes I make for now. THANKS NIGEL!

NOTE: one reviewer of wet palettes online mentioned keeping their wet palette in the refrigerator. the small palette would be best for that.

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I've pushed on, as time is against me, and I've continued to do a lot of thin shading and washes.
In particular I wanted to weather his face, so a nice subtle use of watered Smoke Ink applied in layers, to give an unshaven look.




This will change dramatically once given a good matt varnish, and then dusty pigments.

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Understood. I keep "smoke" in my paint collection. Basically you applied thinned paint to the clothing and accessories, darker color to grooves and creases in the clothing, around belts, etc. I also see that you have painted up the headphones, wiring, and his mic. Looks excellent! I also suppose that you can lighten the high spots in the clothing to build "depth and dimension". The 5 o'clock shadow is a great touch to tell the story of being deployed w/o time for certain normal routines. Thanks Nigel.

I've had two medical appoints this week and I've got a turn in the dental chair tomorrow. Extensive work on a tooth---yeow![frown]...kidding--I almost always go to sleep during dental work. Rarely bothers me at all.

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There are still some things still to do, the gun and holster obviously, cap badge, hightlights (dry brushing) to the mic etc...The Smoke Ink I mentioned is from the Game Colour range. If you are thinking of Smoke by Tamiya then go careful. Thin it with AB Cleaner and test it on something first.
It not only gives a 5 o'clock shadow, it can also be used to paint black stockings.......[wink]

Good luck with dentist...

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Yes, Tamiya Smoke. Thanks for the tip.

I have a great dentist but he is not cheap and this repair is not covered by my insurance of course!

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I forgot. I did buy a "wet palette" today. I'm still going to make one from home materials also.


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Great tips!! Thanks for sharing Nigel!
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Thanks Daniel, if ever you have any problems just ask me. Glad to be of help.

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