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Choppa Nutta

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Well these handle bars are proving to be a bit of mission,
by far the most complex single component I have tackled
on a plastic model with 72 parts all in once they are finished. !!!!! [eek] [crazy]


Very fiddly careful work with numerous second attempts :D
Ended up a bit chunkier than the slender controls I had imagined,
oh well, I'm reasonably happy with it though, learned lots and I
now have a good idea of what needs to improve, luckily I have second
chance on the other side [smile]

Not quite ready for a sortie round the front room [biggrin]

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All to do again for the right hand stick...  not today though, after some sleep perhaps [smile]



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OMG I think it looks great---nice details and "realistic" to what we expect from that mechanism in general. Finished & painted they should be smashing.
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That's a serious amount of parts to those handle bars mate !

Its very difficult when kitbashing or scratchbuilding details to make things look believably busy, but you have nailed it there Paul.

It would have been too easy to just add a couple f wires but going the extra mile and adding a few in different gauges will definitley add visual impact and lift the build.

Also they don't look like they have just been glued on without planning. Each wire looks like it's meant to be there and has a purpose.

Excellent work and will look Stellar with some paint on

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cheers Ted, it's like design a kit and then building it almost,
hunting for the right greebly can be tricky especially if one
has something in mind for a particular job.

Luckily I got lucky [biggrin]

and remembered I had some spare sprues in a 1/48 Horten
kit which will help with the foot pegs coming up after handle
bars. Having a few engineering leanings helps and designing
and building a few RC aircraft helps to know what mechanism
that work look like which helps the functional look along etc.

Just wish I hadn't made them quite as chunky in the main
arms and the cables & attachments are about 50 % too
thick, but I am making do with what I have to hand [biggrin]

Also found some spare decals in amongst it which will suit very nicely [biggrin]

If I can find a 1/48th Kiowa/Jet Ranger I might do this "kugel Spatz"
again but in 1/16th instead of this 1/24 version, maybe.

Anyhow, are you still mulling over the cylinder cockpit ?
Please don't, I'm losing sleep worrying you're about to turn a
fifties classic car into pope mobile pod racer !! haha [biggrin]

Sorry couldn't resist a wee dig but the thought of pope
mobile pod racer has been with me all day lol [wink]


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OMG I think it looks great---nice details and "realistic" to what we expect from that mechanism in general. Finished & painted they should be smashing.



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Cheers Pete, glad you too noticed the "engineery'ing" of it, I do try and think how it might work, really I just want to fly it [biggrin] 

Yeah I started thinking about painting it when I was drawing it, I think once the primer goes down the shape of it all will sit a better, like it's all part of one thing etc. and now that I'm building it I am thinking about how I might photograph it lol [biggrin]

Form meets function, I remember watching a documentary on model making for movies and how you got to make it look like it's functional, that the plumbing has some vague reason to go from here to there. Scratch building anything "engineery" like all vehicles, it pays to think about the function and how it might actually work, any robot movie where they haven't done this always looks none believable. It also helps I was a plumber for a wee while too [wink]

But as much as anything [biggrin] playing with technical Lego really helps understand how machinery works and why stuff needs to go from there to here and all that. I also had a good look at some motorbike handle bars which helped. I saw someone else using little tubes as mounts & fixings for the wires to enter/exit greeblies which makes it look a little more deliberate.

I did spend some time on thinking about what these buttons and levers might do to fly this thing. Thick cabling for the hydraulics and thin for the electrical, twist grip controls needs two hydraulics wires for the push pull for independent control of the thrust vectors of the main engine. Brake levers operate split aileron airbrakes independently and only need a pull as the air pressure will automatically push them back into normal position, roll, yaw and pitch are control through the handle bars as they have a 3 axis range of movement. Feet pedals will control throttle and boost. Buttons on the handle bars on the left is weapon select and a thumb trigger and on the right is a thumb joystick to aim the chin turret, press to fire. etc. etc.

Of course you wouldn't know any of this just looking at the model but working out the background of how it might really work helps decisions about what needs to go where rather than just slapping on greeblies for the sake of it

I definitely overcooked the thickness on a few components though, they look about 50% too thick like the main arms and wire mounting tubes. Oh well, next time [wink]  

Finally managed to find a part that suits the foot peg mounts at last,  engine mount from a 1/48 Airfix Me109 that aint gonna get the engine treatment, well not now anyway [smile]
Beginning to come together [smile]

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That's a serious amount of parts to those handle bars mate ! Its very difficult when kitbashing or scratchbuilding details to make things look believably busy, but you have nailed it there Paul. It would have been too easy to just add a couple f wires but going the extra mile and adding a few in different gauges will definitley add visual impact and lift the build. Also they don't look like they have just been glued on without planning. Each wire looks like it's meant to be there and has a purpose. Excellent work and will look Stellar with some paint on Pete

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In amongst the "New" greeblies I found two sprues of this little puppy, the first of the guided missiles for a night fighting Horten 1/48.
They definit look a lot more interesting than the Harrier rocket pods I was going to use, they're back in the greebly box, no surprise [smile]
And what could be more apt for this what if secret weapon ?
awesome !

And besides, I needed to take a break from the handle bars so I knocked one up .... fnar fnar .....
There is supposed to be a tiny tiny propeller which went ping whilst tidy the burs,
I did look for it, for about two minutes, I had to make some effort after all but it was always going to be highly unlikely the carpet is going to yield that to me, especially after all the abuse I've given it [biggrin]
so anyway, it's got an intake now, they both have, they've been upgrade [wink]
Kinda looks like a pointy whale with fins..... and a blow hole...


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My first go at free hand riveting [smile]
There is some surprisingly accurate lines, there are also some dog legs that are going to get a little bit more weathering than everywhere else ....
That missile felt like sticking a 1/350th plane together [smile]

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Ok ok, back to the handle bars ........... . . .. .. .. . . .   . . ... .. .. . .

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Wow, very convincing scratch building. This is looking great, so much detail! One more to go, you can do it :-)
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Haha thanks for the encouragement Fabian, it's appreciated, especially pulling an
all night marathon to get that far with it. My eyes needed frequent breaks though,
chopping 1mm tubings in half required many attempts but luckily I had some "ACME
Hand Steady Lotion" on hand [wink]

Sorry for all the extra waffle above, I was tired .... [smile]

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..... Ended up being 78 separate pieces in those handle bars ! [redface]

My eyes !!
Still though, glad that bit is finally finished [smile]
Quick mock up to make sure everything fits and to check the scale
relationship between handle bars, seat and foot peg position etc.
seat needs to up and back a bit I reckon

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I found that challenging but a bit a day and the project makes way [smile]

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fantastic! excellent work!
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Cheers Ted you sweet heart [smile] [biggrin]

Nice to see you making progress on yours too [smile]

Sorry for the poor photos, experimenting with my camera a bit but
note the the silver thumb trigger next to the left hand grip, 1mm x 0.5mm !!
The carpet ate a few of those ......
amazing how that one detail can consume more than an hour ...
it's going to get painted dayglo red just to make sure it stands out ! [biggrin]

I was also going to include a hydraulic filler bottle like you see on some
bikes but I have to draw the line some where ....
as I do want to see it finished in a timely fashion [smile]


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A parting shot for the evening [smile]
couldn't resist, aint ready for Vrooming round the room yet so I thought I'd let the pilot sit on it instead.
In several minds about using the pilot for the finished model, handy for scaling the details though [smile]

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It looks grea! Very well done and compliments for your patience :-)
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It looks grea! Very well done and compliments for your patience :-)
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Oh Yeah! I like the pilot figure! the build seems to echo Star Wars Speeder Bikes on the Endor [SP?] Moon, except I like your design better! George,.... hey George, LOOK AT THIS BIKE!!
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