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I just ordered a 1/25 scale figure to "possibly" use as a pilot figure.



he will need mods of course, belts, and a cockpit. I already got a plan for it. hope the product looks good?

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Cheers Ted, I hope my ideas are useful for something, even fodder [biggrin]

Anyhow, I like the idea so much I thought I would have a play around with some concepts [smile]

Here's the one sponsored by Coca Cola  [biggrin]
But with flames up the bonnet [wink]

Some good greeblies you got there btw.


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Paul---that is AWESOME! thanks for taking the time to put that together. I am always trying to "reap" anything I can from you guys!
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Those cylinders look absolutely spot on for size Ted and it's already easy to tell how cool this is going to look from that pic ( the body shape is perfect )

Looks to me like the driver will make a perfect pilot as the way he is dressed fits the style of the car and his hat already looks like a flight helmet.

Looks like you have got a ton of greeblies there mate !

Good hunting

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Coke can engines look great Paul

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Thanks Pete. I am a SCI-FI fan before any other genre. And,...I have always had stashes of all kinds of stuff for "projects". Back in the day I was a multimedia artist. I appreciate your positive comments. I should do more projects like this---maybe I will in the future. Just hope I can finish it before my SIG kit arrives?
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Originally Posted by TedUSA
Paul---that is AWESOME! thanks for taking the time to put that together. I am always trying to "reap" anything I can from you guys!



One detail that I really like is the engine support arms coming out of the front wheel wells. There is great kit detail there which, if modified ,could really be a focal point of detail for where the pod racer cables exit the "car/cockpit" to extend out to the engines. That way the headlamp detail and GRILL can be left to stand on their own. I had originally planned to extend the cables from the headlamp position. I will check both arrangements and make a final decision. thanks again for your input---much appreciated.

AS for the cockpit? I have the clear parts to make a "canopy" on top of the Mercury with a clear cockpit surround that may reach to the chassis of the car.Along with a scratched outer hatch, this would represent an access to the cockpit for the pilot. I hope to create a circular control configuration and give the pilot two extended control armatures rising up from the floor?
I would like to make it appear that he is standing inside the cockpit/car as he flies.

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Yeah the wheel wells seemed like a natural option for me,
I thought about the headlights but dismissed it pretty
quickly for the same reasons you did, they kind of
do define the character of the vehicle [smile]
One thing though I wouldn't make those arms as industrial
as they are in the mockup, I would probably go for two main
telescopic arms on each side with attendant fittings and a
few more small arms telescopic arms to control the "elbows"
next to the wheel well as they reach round the corner so to
speak [smile]

if the hubs are separate from the wheels or better yet if
you have the brake as separates they would make good
mounting points perhaps. Looked at a review of the sister
kit to this one and it looks like it comes with an engine
too which you can see from underneath and now the
wheels too.

My thoughts on clear canopies and standing pilots etc.
I don't like this idea, sorry Ted but I have to be honest,
I think it would spoil the cars character.

My thinkings drifts towards keeping the front seats as is,
detail the dash board and centre console, edit the steering
wheel into a flight yoke with buttons and a couple of cables.
Replace the back seat with a greeblied "ooby dooby drive"
and lots of cables and widgets etc.

Add a few Cadillac style fins to the lower rear of the car
pointing outwards and downwards a bit and greebly the
bottom with hypolev anti gravity magnetis and lots of
wotsits and doodahs etc. [biggrin]

I might a few holes in the bonnet and boot like vents etc. 
so you can see the inner workings.

Just my pennies worth but I would be keen to keep the
flowing lines of the top and front of the car intact.

Anyhow, hope you don't mind my saying [smile]
But what ever you do Ted,
get on with it !! [biggrin] [biggrin] [wink] [biggrin]






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Paul,

thanks for more input---lots of things to speculate on. I am still at the formulation stage and I have total freedom of course. I did some simple Photoshop mock ups of a cylinder type cockpit tonight---which will be TOMORROW if I don't hurry and post:









the first three images are from a session at the UNIT the other day. I thought about a cylindrical cockpit then. You can see the pieces I have on hand to create the basic shell of it. I am sort of led toward this design becasue it will allow me to cut one hole in the roof of the car and build the cockpit & pilot all in one unit that I can put in place after the auto body and everything is built out and painted. Otherwise the interior of the Mercury will be blacked out and sealed. I will use the clear plastic windows and AB them black from the inside. ALL of this sort of component design becasue I am running on a time schedule which takes in consideration my participation in Nigel's SIG build.

I am determined to use quite a few greeblies on the exterior of the auto body, including a MIG auxiliary tank and pipes and vents of all kinds, antennae,wires bundles, etc.

Yes, I will loose the more "streamlined" look of the mercury but I prefer a more space bashed sort of look. The back story is that the Alien pilot and his Mechanic found the car body in a defunct museum on a deserted planet. In need of a quick "hull", they slammed everything together that was needed to make the auto body work with the engines and other systems they had from a previous POD RACER business.

I will definitely be staying with cable connections between the car and the engines which is standard for most of the POD RACERS in Star Wars. [SEE Images below] And  the engines will have a "plasma stream" between them to maintain their relative position and power sharing. I intend to use some Plexiglas rod [painted with Tamiya Clear Blue] between the engines, and the rod will not just be straight [ I'm going to play with a technique to get a nice  subtle dbl curve in the rod if possible--just enough to make it look more "flowing"].... Around the rod will be irregularly bent wire painted flat light blue which will indicate static discharge from the basic plasma stream.

I am still mulling over the use of the MIG wings and and stabilizers. If I use a pair on the rear of the Mercury, then I could use a pair on the engine bodies....or create smaller "fins" for the engines to indicate flight control in two directions. Multiple fins and directional flaps [like turkey feathers on jets] are used on the STAR WARS POD RACER [again, see images below].

I am also thinking about more engraved panel lines and  raised access panels on the Mercury body. I am also thinking about punching a few small  holes and backing them with styrene, then using greeblies to detail the depression in the body, especially where pipes and cables may come out of the auto body. Any chrome parts from the auto kit will be stripped and painted to match the rest of the car body.

I have also definitely decided to paint the different panels of the Mercury various metal colors from aluminum to titanium to silver, etc. Afterwards I will weather the overall body to bring out the panel lines and the details over the surface. Markings will be in RED. I will be using a mask to AB on the POD RACERS ID:  U10 [which stands for the name I have been using for UNIT10 where I have my hobby area set up at the climate control storage business]. The Unit # is actually 127, but I added the numbers together to make it easier to refer to in my posts---yep, its sort of strange, but so am I. I have not forgotten about considering the flames up the bonnet idea Paul. I have to review the kit decals to see if there is any possibility of including them or if I will need to make some masks of my own.

the following images are primary reference to the basic setup:







The final image of Anakin Skywalker will give ideas for modifications to the Pilot figure I have ordered although he is in "range" of the basic appearance. He is an adult and not a child of course.

Well, that pretty much lays out the design track for the project except for any mock-ups of the engines for which I only have the basic shell/intake/exhaust components nailed down. the rest will be wire,tubing,metal sleeves, grebblies, styrene, kitchen sink, etc.

Its going to take me a day or so to get back to UNIT10 and progress forward with actual construction. Non-modeling stuff always getting in the WAY!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrr.....................CHEERS everyone!


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well which ever way you go with it I'm sure it will be all good [biggrin]

cables for the tethers will look much better than the heavy looking
digger arms, they do need to look light weight I reckon [smile]

not keen on the cylinder cockpit and it should be hot rod Red but it's
your model and my opinion shouldn't get in the way of you getting
a model you're happy with.

if you put fins on it, put the big ones on the engines and the little ones
on the car, my final thought for the evening [biggrin] 

Anyhow, I'm subscribed and keen to see progress on this unique offering  [thumb] [smile]

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Paul,

Thanks for hanging in and giving me honest comments and feedback. Perfect point about the fins. Your work here on Genessis has enriched all of us. I can't tell you how many individuals OUTSIDE of Genessis I have told about some of the awesome builds and finishes you have presented here for us. Great ideas and great executions---visualization and actualization---the heart of design and life itself.

Thank you my friend!

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errr.... not quite sure what to say to that, are you sure you got the right person ?? [biggrin]
I thought I was the annoying big gob [smile]

you're awfully kind good sir but there are a great many talents here, many here are
much better than I am by a long a shot, I have to contend with this feeling that none
of my models are ever good enough and I can always see room for improvement etc.

anyhow, hot rod red for at least the top and front and ditch the turret, give it a sun roof instead [biggrin]

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ooh had another idea !!

instead of doing the turret cylinder cockpit thingy,
cut the circle in the roof and have a low profile
escape hatch in the roof using the top 5mm of the
clear part you're holding in the photo so it's proud
of the roof but not tall, kinda like a circular sun roof.
easy viewing into the cockpit area etc. etc.

Escape hatch on the bottom means chopping through
that lovely chassis work underneath...

Anyhow last thought for the evening, promise [biggrin] 
 

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Originally Posted by Choppa Nutta
errr.... not quite sure what to say to that, are you sure you got the right person ?? [biggrin]
I thought I was the annoying big gob [smile]

you're awfully kind good sir but there are a great many talents here, many here are
much better than I am by a long a shot, I have to contend with this feeling that none
of my models are ever good enough and I can always see room for improvement etc.

anyhow, hot rod red for at least the top and front and ditch the turret, give it a sun roof instead [biggrin]


Your modesty will not save you from my adoration's---hand me that Oscar please

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Originally Posted by Choppa Nutta
ooh had another idea !!

instead of doing the turret cylinder cockpit thingy,
cut the circle in the roof and have a low profile
escape hatch in the roof using the top 5mm of the
clear part you're holding in the photo so it's proud
of the roof but not tall, kinda like a circular sun roof.
easy viewing into the cockpit area etc. etc.

Escape hatch on the bottom means chopping through
that lovely chassis work underneath...

Anyhow last thought for the evening, promise [biggrin] 
 


ideas noted and are now circling my brain cell---seriously, thanks!

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