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SimonD

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They say a rolling stone gathers no moss, mine just went supersonic! lol I've been salivating at Joe's lovely Hasa F-14 build the last few days and am chomping at the bit to tackle a 1:32 scale kit.
This particular kit is special in that it was given to me by my daughter (the younger) for Xmas. I'm going to give her the link to this thread so she can watch the build, if she wants. [smile]

The kit itself is pretty old. I think it dates back to 1994 although this version looks like it was released in 2003 (according to the date on the instruction manual).
The first challenge is to rid the kit of those pesky raised panel lines. I have made a bit of a start and they look quite manageable so far. Once they are done I'll look at construction. I will be looking at what's available in aftermarket, I'm guessing there's plenty. I wouldn't mind trying out a cockpit and ejector seats at least. We'll see.

There are a few builds of this kit logged on the net from memory, and some of them have gone to great lengths to correct any inaccuracies in the kit. I won't be counting rivets, but I will research it and see what I think is necessary to do, or more's the point, what I'm capable of doing. lol

I've never built a 1:32 before, and never built a Tomcat. And this is my first Tamiya kit, so that's the trifecta. That will do, here's the pics.

This is another big box, similar to the Tamiya Phantom boxes in 1:32:


We get 5 options in markings from the Black Knights (USS Kitty Hawk) or the Top Hatters (USS Enterprise) Ships. I haven't decided yet which one I'll do. Maybe an AM set will take my eye yet.


The lower fuselage and front section, plus all the metal parts and rubber tyres (very cool). I put a bottle of Tamiya ET there so you can get a size reference. This sucker is BIG! [biggrin]


First step in the manual is selection of external stores so you can punch out the relevant holes, I'll be loading this up as much as I can so maybe option C with some extra Sidewinders and stuff, if it's possible. (Haven't really looked into it yet. lol)


These are the 2x sprues. So double what you see here. Lots of weapons are supplied. Just lots of bits full stop! The top right sprue is the update sprue. Note the new exhaust cans, much more detail in these (closeups later).


The upper fuselage, intakes etc. The canopy parts are lovely and clear and shiny, although there is a big seamline down the middle of the main part. Off to Bobby's tutorial to remind me how to get rid of it. Just reading through the instructions Tamiya do note the seam, and give details how to correct it. Nice touch.


More bits. Control surfaces. People etc. The stabilisers are those two piece things that one is smaller than the other. So some cleaning up to do there. No biggie I hope.


And the main wings. I chucked the Spitty in there for a comparison. lol A different scale I know. The metal plate is part of the "Operating variable geometry wing" (which is very cool), it goes between the wings. That part alone is about the wingspan of the Spitty. lol


That's about it for now. I'll post a few pics of the rescribing of the raised panel lines which is now officially under way.

I'm also hoping to inspire a mate of mine here to drag his off the shelf and buddy build with me, whaddya say Pete? [wink] lol

Thanks for looking.


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Been tackling the raised panel lines today. They're not too bad as in they are very slight, so slight a few passes with a sander and they are gone! So for no other reason they have to be fixed.
Long story short, my daughter rang me and said "Dad, the BF-109 Royal Class are sold out, what else do you want?" So I was on the spot and this was on special at one of my online sites so she got that. I didn't have time to read the reviews until after she ordered it. And it was panned a bit because of it's age etc and the confounding mix of recess and raised panel lines. I actually emailed the store after I read it to see if I could change it for the "Bunker Buster" F15 Eagle, but they'd already shipped it! (so they said).
So that was ok, I prefer the F-14 anyway, just wish Tamiya would get off their butts and update it. Nevermind, I'll do it.

I've been practising my scribing and have all the necessary tools, so here we go. The results so far are pretty satisfactory.


Lower fuselage centre pretty much done. I will give it a sand with the finer grits and polishers before painting.


Two shots, one side done, one not. To show the difference. I think it's a well worthwhile exercise to sort these now, get them out of the way, and it's done.



Thanks for looking.

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Go Simon !

I'm so pleased that you are building this one and very excited to watch the progress, I love 1/32 I know they are a pain to find space for due to the size but the just look so impressive when finished.
I think the original release of this kit was 1980 but has had some revisions in subsequent releases to bring the weapons and sensors up to date. If I remember correctly there are new exhaust cans in the box with sharper details than the originals.
There is a ton of aftermarket out there for this kit, Aires make a fantastic resin cockpit set that really gives the kit a lift.

I remeber the fit of the main fuselage giving me a little bit of trouble when I put Them together, although this might have been down to my lack of experience at the time and not the kit, I had to use a fair bit of filler on the seams, also another thing to look out for is where the 2 top pieces of the fuselage go together, you will find that there is a step between the the parts, this really threw me, and left me scratching my head how I was going to fix it.
But when I looked at pictures of the Tomacat I saw that this step exists in the real thing (you will see what I mean if you do a dry fit of those parts)

I am inspired to pull mine from the shelf of doom, and would be honoured to do a buddy build with you mate !
I will start a thread later on, and take a couple of pics of where mine is at, I think the poor thing is in a sorry state after years of sitting unloved lol !

Great stuff Simon, I can't wait for the next update

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That would be so cool if you did, and thanks for all that info. I think there was a re-release in '94 perhaps? For that very reason (weapons update). I'm not going to worry too much about what could go wrong with this build. Having my daughter behind me is more than enough incentive to see it through. Lol And I thought Aries did a pit. I'll definitely order one then as I don't fancy using decals. The aftermarket will slow things up a bit as I'm currently putting tyres on the car, don't you hate it when safety comes before your hobby? Lol anyway, thanks again for your comments Pete and looking forward to you dusting that bad boy off! [biggrin]

Oh, and I have space allocated already, hopefully for both this and the Phantom. [smile]

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I know what you mean mate, the front tyres on my shed need changing too.

The rescribing looks great, I didn't do it on mine, but I didn't own a scriber back then lol !
There are only 3 choices for a Tomcat in this scale, Revell did one but I think it's Out of production, Trumpeter released a few versions a little while back, and from what I've seen its packed with details, but it has some issues with the angle of the intakes and looks a little odd when viewed from the front (I would still like to build one though)
And this Tamiya one, which panels aside has captured the shape of the real thing absolutely spot on to my eyes, I've seen a load of these kits built up and it looks fantastic when finished

I'm going to go upstairs and try and find all the bits to mine now, take a few pics and then I need to crack on down in the cave, I just hope everything is still there, I did pinch the pilots and a couple of sidewinders for another build , I'm just hoping that's all that's missing

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Lol sweet, I'm actually really curious what sort of condition it's in. You'll probably look at it and go "That's nothing" and get it back on track in a day. I know the hard bit is getting over that psychological hump. We do get a little emotional (good and bad) with these things hey? lol

I do have just about all the AM for this kit in either a shopping basket or waiting for restock, I think the bit and pieces for these kits sell pretty quickly here. I might have to shop around.

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Lol sweet, I'm actually really curious what sort of condition it's in. You'll probably look at it and go "That's nothing" and get it back on track in a day. I know the hard bit is getting over that psychological hump. We do get a little emotional (good and bad) with these things hey? lol

I do have just about all the AM for this kit in either a shopping basket or waiting for restock, I think the bit and pieces for these kits sell pretty quickly here. I might have to shop around.


Pics are uploading as I type

It's actually in pretty good shape, the main body is a bit dusty but the nose section was in the box so it's pretty clean
There is also a part butchered Eduard BigEd set in there, I had forgotten I had that, it looks like the parts are all there minus a couple of winders and the pilots, I think it's going to take me a while to figure out what stage of the instructions I was at though.
It looks like I was jumping back and forth and making it up as I went along lol, it should be ok with a half decent paint job I reckon

The fact that all of the aftermarket is still available shows how popular this kit still is, what goodies have you got mate ?

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I haven't got anything yet, but I'm waiting for a restock email on the cockpit and the paint masks, although I'm not that fussed on the paint masks, I can mask it myself ok. (It's not a WWII Bomber canopy!). I have the open exhaust nozzles in a shopping basket waiting for fundage. But I did have a look at the kit nozzles and they are very good so I might can them yet (NPI(no pun intended)). That's 43 bucks back in the pocket. I also put the interior (and probably the exterior) detail sets in the basket too.
Did you have the Aries for yours Pete? If so, did you paint the dials? Or trim them and put the colour PE on them. I think that Eduard PE IP and side panel colour panels look absolutely wicked!

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Oh crap I just did another search for aftermarket stuff and this time I left the "A" off of F-14. There's heaps of stuff!! lol A lot of it is still out of stock so I hope they're going to get some stock in soon. I've subscribed to the resin airbrake, I've put an ECM pod in the shopping basket (I'm going to research that first, just to make sure it's applicable. lol). If I did the F-14B conversion I can get a cockpit now, but it's another 42 bucks again to get the exterior conversion kit. Hang on, I'm still looking. lol Yeah some nice wheels to go with those nice tyres will be the go too I reckon.

I might actually do some research and see how many people are converting them to B/D's. That might be the reason why the "A" stuff isn't in stock.

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Just discussing the decals on Pete's buddy thread which is here:
http://genessis-models.websitetoolbox.com/post/132-tamiya-f14a-shelf-of-doom-rescue-7246411?pid=1285755356#post1285755356

I reckon I'll stick with the Tamiya decals, mainly because I've never used them before so I should at least once. But I'll go for the Top hatters version rather than the Black Knights. Their markings are smaller. And I'll paint the anti-glare and anti-slip of course. So it should be cool (he says).

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I haven't got anything yet, but I'm waiting for a restock email on the cockpit and the paint masks, although I'm not that fussed on the paint masks, I can mask it myself ok. (It's not a WWII Bomber canopy!). I have the open exhaust nozzles in a shopping basket waiting for fundage. But I did have a look at the kit nozzles and they are very good so I might can them yet (NPI(no pun intended)). That's 43 bucks back in the pocket. I also put the interior (and probably the exterior) detail sets in the basket too.
Did you have the Aries for yours Pete? If so, did you paint the dials? Or trim them and put the colour PE on them. I think that Eduard PE IP and side panel colour panels look absolutely wicked!


The kit cans do look good, I would stick with them and save the money mate.
I used some of the Eduard coloured etch for the IPs but painted the moulded detail on the side consoles on the Aires pit, the etch for those areas is nicely detailed but very 2 dimensional, the resin pit has all the buttons and switches moulded in

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I haven't got anything yet, but I'm waiting for a restock email on the cockpit and the paint masks, although I'm not that fussed on the paint masks, I can mask it myself ok. (It's not a WWII Bomber canopy!). I have the open exhaust nozzles in a shopping basket waiting for fundage. But I did have a look at the kit nozzles and they are very good so I might can them yet (NPI(no pun intended)). That's 43 bucks back in the pocket. I also put the interior (and probably the exterior) detail sets in the basket too.
Did you have the Aries for yours Pete? If so, did you paint the dials? Or trim them and put the colour PE on them. I think that Eduard PE IP and side panel colour panels look absolutely wicked!
The kit cans do look good, I would stick with them and save the money mate. I used some of the Eduard coloured etch for the IPs but painted the moulded detail on the side consoles on the Aires pit, the etch for those areas is nicely detailed but very 2 dimensional, the resin pit has all the buttons and switches moulded in Pete


Ahh yes, good point. Ok, I'll get the PE anyway and check it out and use the IP's, wouldn't be a bad thing to paint it either.

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Oh crap I just did another search for aftermarket stuff and this time I left the "A" off of F-14. There's heaps of stuff!! lol A lot of it is still out of stock so I hope they're going to get some stock in soon. I've subscribed to the resin airbrake, I've put an ECM pod in the shopping basket (I'm going to research that first, just to make sure it's applicable. lol). If I did the F-14B conversion I can get a cockpit now, but it's another 42 bucks again to get the exterior conversion kit. Hang on, I'm still looking. lol Yeah some nice wheels to go with those nice tyres will be the go too I reckon.

I might actually do some research and see how many people are converting them to B/D's. That might be the reason why the "A" stuff isn't in stock.


Is the main exterior difference between the "A" and "B/D" the exhaust cans ? Are they the larger ones like on an f-16 ?

I remeber it took a little time to track down a pit too, but to be honest Im not sure what version my pit is for lol, it could be a "B"

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Just discussing the decals on Pete's buddy thread which is here:
http://genessis-models.websitetoolbox.com/post/132-tamiya-f14a-shelf-of-doom-rescue-7246411?pid=1285755356#post1285755356

I reckon I'll stick with the Tamiya decals, mainly because I've never used them before so I should at least once. But I'll go for the Top hatters version rather than the Black Knights. Their markings are smaller. And I'll paint the anti-glare and anti-slip of course. So it should be cool (he says).


I think I will do the same and give the Tamiya ones a try, if they go pear shaped it won't be the end of the world, most marking options are all painted the same colour, it will just be the tail fins that might need repainting, and there are plenty of aftermarket decal options for these kits

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Re: A to B Conversion:
Yeah pretty much, and the jet finny bits at the cockpit end of the afterburner. Whatever they are called. lol I think the B has the ECM Pod joystick on the left hand side, if I remember correctly, the A it's flatter.

Yeah, it would be nice to use a set of cartographs on this, lol Anyway, I've got a while to think about that .... you haven't! haha.

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