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Vallejo : Acrylic Polyurethane Surface Primer : Product Review / Tutorial

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The Genessis Models' product review and tutorial video, "Vallejo:Acrylic Polyurethane Surface Primer: Product Review / Tutorial" highlights Vallejo's grey, polyurethane paint primer. Professional modeler and model building instructor Bobby Waldron highly recommends this primer, but cautions that it has to be well shaken up before use because it tends to separate if left standing for a while.

The mixture Bobby recommends is 50% thinners to 50% Vallejo Acrylic Polyurethane Surface Primer mixed together well by stirring it up in the Airbrush well. The model Bobby used for the video was a 1/48 scale model of a Lockheed F-104 Starfighter. The first coat applied to the model was a very light mist and was let dry before being followed by two additional coats of primer. Bobby commented that viewers need only touch the dried primer surface to appreciate why it's the perfect primer

Bobby explained that when the primer is applied and dried, imperfections such as seam lines may become apparent that were not noticed previously. These of course need to be sanded down and primered again before the model can be painted. Bobby cautioned that Vallejo's Acrylic Polyurethane Surface Primer require 24 to 48 hours to dry completely. Attempting to sand down seam lines will result in the primer peeling. A day or two is a long time to wait to continue a project, so Bobby shared a great tip.

Bobby demonstrated how Pledge's Multi-Surface Wax Cleaner could be applied to a surface coated in not yet fully dried Vallejo Acrylic Polyurethane Surface Primer. Apparently a chemical process that occurs with the Pledge's Multi-Surface Wax Cleaner is sprayed over the Vallejo Acrylic Polyurethane Surface Primer allows sanding almost immediately without there being any peeling of the primer.

The closing recommendation is that the Vallejo Acrylic Polyurethane Surface Primer, being a very light grey in colour, is the perfect base for any colour of paint to be applied, but especially whites.




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Hi Bobby
Does this thin down with X20A and is that the 74.601 primer.. cheers
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Great video, but I have some suggestion for those in the USA, or stationed overseas (PX). We use a different formulation of Future. The one you are using in the video looks rather odd...it has an opaque color to it! Future has undergone many confusing changes to its branding. Right now, it is being sold as Pledge Floor Care: Multi-Surface Finish, and it smells, behaves and looks just like the old Future. I found my bottle in Wal-Mart.

Cleaning: Blast a small amount of Windex (which has ammonia) followed by a final rinse of water to get rid of any Windex still in the brush.


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Good god I replied to the wrong forum!
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Great video, but I have some suggestion for those in the USA, or stationed overseas (PX). We use a different formulation of Future. The one you are using in the video looks rather odd...it has an opaque color to it! Future has undergone many confusing changes to its branding. Right now, it is being sold as Pledge Floor Care: Multi-Surface Finish, and it smells, behaves and looks just like the old Future. I found my bottle in Wal-Mart.

Cleaning: Blast a small amount of Windex (which has ammonia) followed by a final rinse of water to get rid of any Windex still in the brush.




the original johnsons Kleer we used to get over here was clear like water, but the new one has a kind of "nicotine" colour to it. From what I've read it behaves pretty much the same way as the old stuff but I haven't used it myself, I still have around 3/4 of a bottle of the old formula that I use, I think the changes to the formula in Europe were due to EU rulings banning certain chemicals, they have even brought in regulations limiting the maxiximum wattage of vaccum cleaners and hair dryers, not to mention the ever tightening rules on exhaust emissions

I swear I will see a tax on farting in my lifetime lol

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I used Vallejo Air & Color paints almost exclusively, but the primer is terrible. for headache free primer, use Badger Stynylrez.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K3KGUJM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I used Vallejo Air & Color paints almost exclusively, but the primer is terrible. for headache free primer, use Badger Stynylrez.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K3KGUJM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1


One great thing about the hobby is that if a particular product does not work for you, there are always alternatives--thanks for the info!

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I used Vallejo Primer for a long time. Drove me mad for for two reasons no 3 just thought of another.

1. I takes an age to dry

2. Mask & it will peel somewhere

3. It will not sand to a feather edge always will show were it has peeled.

Styrylerez Badger Primer.

1. Dries in an hour & it is OK to sand wet & dry.

2. Masking you ere unlucky if it breaks away.

3. Sands to a perfect feather edge & will not show the edge after re-priming.

Vallejo must be nuts. They know how good Stynylerez is why do they not produce an equivalent.

Laurie

PS stupid name Stynylerez pobably spelt in correctly. Sorry


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