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Hauptmann61

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Morning Bobby.
Very new to this great forum and to Genessis Models. As per my intro recently back into model building so please excuse this rookie type query. Ive just been watching the video you had on the F14 Tomcat build with the pin stripping of the panel lines. I just had a question about the type of gloss varnish you would recommend or is a popular choice. Lastly what would be your recommendation on the final Matt varnish and when would you apply it? I recall using Microscale products some 10 years ago. 

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Mike, I'm not Bobby, but I'll throw my thoughts in.

A very popular clear gloss is Future (called Klear in the UK) floor polish. It works ok...a lot of people use it. I don't particularly care for it, but you may find it to be a good option for you. I really like Alclad Auqa Gloss myself. It gives a great shiny coat for decals and seems to be more forgiving than Future. I never can get Future to spray consistently.

For a final flat I use Testors Dullcoat. That's a lacquer and you may not want to deal with that, but it's just about the best flat I've seen.

I do like the way the Microscale stuff sprays. I just find their flat to not be all that flat...it's pretty satin actually. Their gloss is nice, but I just like the ALclad stuff better.

Hopefully I'm not out of line chiming in on your question [smile] Good luck.

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Hi Jimd

Great to hear from you and please no apologies. I'll take all the help and advice as I can see that despite building and painting for quite a while now I have a lot to learn and catch up on in this hobby. You highlight the exact problem Ive experienced with the like Microscale flat. I have also tried Vallejo Air Matt and both are giving me a satin sheen rather than a matt finish. Ive heard a lot of good things about Testors dullcoat so I may well go that way as these acrylic options just dont seem to to be working. Hell never heard of floor polish being used as a gloss coating!!! LOL!! Must say both Vallejo and Microscale gloss do what they say on the tin. I just wanted to get an idea of what is being used really. How would you go about prepping Klear for airbrush work?

Thanks again, really much appreciated.

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If you're happy with the Microscale gloss there's no reason to change it...that's for sure. Like I say, I don't like Future/Klear, but some people swear by it. I do use it to coat canopies, but I don't airbrush it anymore.

I've had the same problem with all the Mattes I've tried...Vallejo, Microscale, Model Master Acryl...they just aren't flat in my experience. I do like using the Microscale when I need the finish it gives though.

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Have you guys tried the Winsor&Newton "Matt UV Varnish" Works great for me and Bobby uses it as well
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I bought a bottle of the W&N Matt Varnish [the art store did not have the UV version] not long after getting back to scale modeling. I could never get it to AB evenly. Since that was on my first model after 46 years, and I have a little more AB experience now. I need to try it again. Recently I have been unhappy with the "future" for decal application. does not seem to protect the paint. I know that they have made formula changes to comply with environmental concerns. I have used the Vallego Matt Varnish on the last few builds and it was really flat, really.....but also not the smoothest. What I discovered there was I had been holding my AB a bit too far away from the model and the Varnish was drying in the air before hitting the model. I was stuck in the old rattle can trap---don't get too close with the rattle can. two very different situations completely of course. SO basically my post here is about how I screwed up some recognized products by misuse. so don't follow me!! hope you at least got a laugh out of this twisty confession of sorts!
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Thanks a lot chaps. Incidentally have you chaps used Testors dullcote for final matt finish? Ill try find the UV W&N and give that a bash.
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Morning Chaps,
Clobbering this topic to death I know. Just about to place an order on the few bits I need to be fully operational again and came across this at Models R go:-

http://www.modelsrgo.co.uk/alclad-2-aqua-gloss-120ml.html

Is this worth a go?

Thanks chaps in advance.



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I haven't Haup but I do love their paints.
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