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any progress is good progress!
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A little more progress on this build to report.  The vehicle is now fully armed out, here are shots of the top and bottom......

DSC_0391_1510539813693 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr
DSC_0389_1510022774764 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

Once that was finished I started on the diorama base.  My thought for this was to have the vehicle floating next to a dock with supplies nearby.  The base will consist of a small section of land, a dock and water.  first I cut some foam insulation to shape and molded the shoreline until I was happy.  Then I built a dock out of scrap balsa I had lying around the house from RC planes.  Next steps will be to paint the base, add ground effects and then pour the resin water.  Lots a fun new things to try but that's what these GB's are all about.

DSC_0389_1510539813341 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr
DSC_0390_1510539813850 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

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Water? Oh Yeah, I’ve been waiting for that part in particular. Love to try it sometime myself. The dock is looking good already.
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Yes, the water.  I'm planning to use clear 2 part epoxy as I'm told it gives the hardest finish but I'm having trouble finding out the best material to use as a mold on the sides to maintain the epoxy's shape while curing.  I've seen everything from masking tape to melamine wood, I just want to make sure the epoxy doesn't stick to it.  I think a few tests are in order.
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Tests? definitely. Ive seen a lot of water made from clear acrylic caulk--or was it clear 100% silicone??-- but not from epoxy. I know nothing about the process from a practical standpoint of experience. I've read so many tutorials and they were ALL "the best"....right---I'm confused!!

I would presume if you have your base and you put the "land" and dock on it, you could surround the base with thin wood trim and it would be like a "tray" of sorts. Otherwise the edge of everything will show.Here again, I've seen so many water dioramas that my brain is jumbled as to what I would do. SO you got the ball---go for a touchdown!

OKAY--I totally forgot what the base looked like! you already have a surround made from picture frame. I swear I looked at those pictures before my last response! OMG I'm slipping away quickly.


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Ok,  I unwrapped the first test of the water for the diorama last night and it's good and not good, if you follow me.  I used styrene sheet on all sides of the base to hold in the epoxy while it cured and one of my worries was that the styrene would stick to the epoxy.  Well it didn't and I was able to remove it easily, that was the good.  The not so good was that the epoxy (water) came out murky and not clear as I had hoped and also the sides are opaque.  I think this is due to how I mixed the 2 part epoxy, I may have mixed too quickly causing tiny bubbles in the epoxy.

Last night I also set up another test piece.  This time I covered the styrene sheet with clear packing tape to hopefully get better clarity on the sides and I mixed the epoxy slower as to not create to many bubbles.  I will unwrap tonight and see the results.

Pics of the first test.......

DSC_0390_1510700681831 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr
DSC_0392 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

The other thing I haven't yet tested is tinting the epoxy.  I plan to add a few drops of dark blue paint while mixing the epoxy to give it a less crystal clear look.

More pics tomorrow.

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Interesting, very interesting!
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Now for the second and third tests.  The second test came out with much better clarity from the top and sides but there are still tiny bubbles throughout, not sure how to fix that.  With the third sample I used clear packing tape for the border, instead of styrene sheet, and I added a few drops of paint while mixing the epoxy.  I think I added too much paint as the epoxy is not tinted but rather just coloured.  More tests are required to iron out the issues.

second test.....
DSC_0390_1510833045980 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr
DSC_0391_1510833048776 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

Third test.....
DSC_0393 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr
DSC_0394 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

All three together.....
DSC_0395 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

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You might try painting the base with a dark blue or blue/green paint before applying the epoxy? The color should "reflect" through the clear epoxy. You can always add a very thin tint color to the top. Bubbles? unless they are gigantic, I think water has bubbles in it from movement, organic processes, etc.? Perhaps hitting the fresh epoxy with a heat gun or hot blow dryer might help remove bubbles? At any rate, I appreciate you sharing your journey with the water.

this author gives a lot of info about resin water work. Might be worth a read. He says to kill the bubbles with a needle.

http://www.diorama-dreamland.at/index.php?id=26

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Very interesting, thank you for sharing your test. Never tried simulating clear water so can’t provide any tips but sure you will figure it out.
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This GB hasn't had much action in some time so I thought I would add a little update to my progress, even though my build is slow going.  After shaping the diorama base I gave it a coat of black as a base primer then covered the surface with white glue and a layer of fine stones.  I then painted the base a few shades of brown to try and add some contrast for depth.  Then using drywall putty I created a muddy path from the edge of the base to the dock, seen in white, and have since painted it a muddy brown.  I also placed some stone from my garden on the base and will glue them in place just before I pour the resin water.  I painted the dock with a mix of brown's, beige's and grey's to attempt to make it look like weathered wood, not sure how realistic it is but I'm happy with it.

Next up will be some dry brushing to highlight the base features, then glue the rocks in place and add the grass.  For the grass I will be using a static grass applicator that I made myself.  Not much longer before I start pouring the water.

Here are some pictures,

Base with fine stones glued and painted brown shades.....
DSC_0391_1511821554580 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

Base with mud path, dock and rocks in place but not glued....
DSC_0391_1511911919019 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

And finally the static grass applicator I made.....
DSC_0391_1511831781593 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

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Nice work. Looks good. I also like the static grass applicator you made.
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Thanks for the update! I don’t know what’s going (or better not going) on with this GB. We hade a good start but now it’s awfully quite, except your and Ted‘s build. The forum in general is exceptionally quiet. It’s also way to long ago that I posted something new... have to work on that.
Hope to see an update soon and we maybe have our first final entry :-)

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Could be the holiday thing ? Don’t know for sure but it’s good to hear from you Fabian.
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I managed some more bench time on the diorama base this weekend and I think its about ready for the water.  With only a few weeks left on this GB it's coming down to the wire.

This first picture shows half of the grass down and the glue down on the other half waiting to have the static grass applicator to do it's magic......
DSC_0391_1512180726238 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

This pictures shows the mess that happens when using the static grass applicator, just while the glue dries.....
DSC_0393_1512180724665 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

And here is the after picture once all the excess grass is removed from the base........starting to look good.
DSC_0391_1512267210443 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

Finally, one of the base with the dock set in place.....
DSC_0392_1512267210168 by Tim Ashton, on Flickr

The dock has since been glued down and once I get a chance I will be pouring the water, probably in 2 or 3 pours to avoid cracking the epoxy resin when drying.

More to come.

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