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ddoc666

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Hi

I've been struggling a lot with the lighting of my workbench seems that regardless of what I do I end up with disturbing shadows. Really would like to hear your thoughts about this!

Also it would be interesting with a tutorial on easy ways to achieve good quality photos of our models!

Thanks for great shows and builds my learning curve has really skyrocketed since I joined!


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Daniel,
Hello and thanks for posting your questions. Seems like everyone here has different light setups. Several have used the triple fluorescent tube lights with extension arms. I already had a 4' two light fixture. I hung it over my main work area. It seems to do fine. The length of the lights gives you light coming from overhead and from each end. You can never eliminate ALL shadows but having a long tube light has worked well for me. I also had a swing arm 100W lamp on each end of my work area for a good while, but now the 4" fixture does all the main lighting. I use the 2 swing arm lights at my extractor fan when I am painting with the AB. At a local club "build day" recently, a friend of mine had on his magnifier goggles. On each side of the frame he had velcrowed a nice LED light [each one about the size of a mans thumb] they put the best light exactly where he was looking/working.

the easy photo setup is harder to explain without going into a lot of details as to the who what when where why, etc. I have encouraged other modelers to google "table top photography" or "Product photography"...much of what you do will depend on the camera you will use. does it have a flash? is the flash built in or is it above the camera body? Here is the deal. It takes a LOT of light to make good photos. flash exposures can work but they can also make a lot of hard shadows. Some shooters surround the model with thin thin paper and shine lights from overhead and from both sides. the paper will filter the light and "soften" the shadows. White paper reflects light and can increase your light levels as the light bounces off the white and lights up areas of the model that are sometimes in shadow. Some modelers place a light blue paper under the model to take away a bit of the harshness of the white reflections. ALL PHOTOGRAPHY depends on light. If you are going to use continuous light [a lamp or work light], you will need a lot of wattage. If you use flash, you will not need as much light, but you will need to "soften" the flash shadows with some kind of filter. you will also need to have some white paper around the model to reflect the flash into areas that the flash will not usually reach. Many people take the paper they use under the model and prop one end of the sheet up against something to create a half pipe [similar to a skateboard ramp?] at one end. if you place your model away from the curve, then there will be no paper seam behind the model. the paper behind the model should reflect light back toward the back of the model and help with lighting. Now, you can place a white piece of poster board or artist foam core on each side of the model to help reflect light to the sides of the model.

See how the subject grows and grows? I wish there was a perfect video. I did photography [studio and location/indoors/outdoors for over 8 years] and I have never actually found a video that explains EVERY detail that you need to know to do table top photography or "product photography". they either don't tell you enough, or they load you down with so MUCH detail that you get frustrated and want to jerk your hair out.

Let me try once again to locate something that might go along with what I have written here. yes---one picture worth thousand [s] words---I think you need BOTH to really get the results you need. You also need to practice and keep notes of what you did for each picture. yes it is LABOR, but its the only way you will learn what you need to know.









http://www.alzodigital.com/table_top_photography.htm

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=table+top+photography

http://photography.tutsplus.com/articles/creating-your-personal-tabletop-studio--photo-11046

I hope there is something in the images or links that helps. I like the idea of taking a cardboard box and cutting out the front and sides and top [see picture in article], then putting thin paper  over the sections on the sides and top to diffuse the light coming from those directions. Of course, Models may require a larger box than one for doing small product pictures. Notice that they use 400W lights! that would be a work utility lights like a mechanic uses. they are hot when left on!

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pinterest pg. of scale models/dioramas:
http://www.pinterest.com/intrstinpintrst/awesome-scale-models/


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Ted,

Thanks a lot!

I think I will test to hang a fixture over my bench, seems like a great idea also I can free up space by removing some of my swing arms (got three at the moment). The LED equipped googles sounds smart maybe I try with a headlamp just to try the concept even though my girlfriend will think I gone totally crazy, she thinks I'm a bit weird with this hobby as it is [smile][smile].

Regarding the photography thanks for sharing your thoughts and supplying me with the links, really a subject on its own.

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It is unfortunate that GF's and spouses often do not understand scale modeling. My GF sometimes makes remarks like,"Did you have fun today playing with your toys?"----I try to avoid steam coming out of my ears. Explaining the process of scale model building/finishing is difficult to do. they would have to watch the process to understand the skills involved. Oh well....
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pinterest pg. of scale models/dioramas:
http://www.pinterest.com/intrstinpintrst/awesome-scale-models/


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